Trump says the United States does not need oil, gas, vehicles, or lumber imports from his allies to the north.

Trump made the comments Thursday, in his first speech to world leaders since returning to the White House for his second term.

  • Phoenixz
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    62 days ago

    I’d love to watch the US handle skyrocketing prices because they got rid of all the immigrants, then they got rid of Canadian lumber and oil, causing those prices to skyrocket as well.

    Add to that the costs of the yet again border wall, costs of the immigration death camps vacation parks with all the guards, legal shit and transportation, the tax cuts for the wealthy and the extra taxes for people who already can’t make it to the end of the month.

    So far, el cheeto is doing GREAT!

    • lightrushOP
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      Something occurred to me while watching some news yesterday. It won’t take ICE raids removing people from farms for the effect to materialize. The fear from raids will cause people to stop showing up for work at the farms before that. That’s why I think we’ll see the effects on food prices quicker.

  • @[email protected]
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    92 days ago

    That’s the thing, Canada is mostly a raw materials exporter and the main importer is US industry.

    It’d basically be like when China tried to “Wolf-warrior” Australia and ended up with coal, pork and grain shortages.

  • @[email protected]
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    112 days ago

    Then I guess Canada can just switch lumber production and construction standards over to metric now.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 days ago

      A 2x4 stopped being a 2x4 so long ago, and keeps becoming less, we might as well measure them in metric now

      • @ikidd
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        12 days ago

        2x4 has always been the nominal, unplaned dimension since forever.

        • @[email protected]
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          You are making me show my age now. When I renovated homes 30+ years ago the studs were sawn 2x4 with sharp corners. The replacement stuff was like 1.75-1.875 x 3.75 the new ones at the stores now are like 1.5 x 3.5.

          • @ikidd
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            12 days ago

            Yah, I just moved an old farmhouse (1962) to another quarter section on the farm, and all the old structure was that square planed stuff, but it was finished 1.5x3.5. I think that’s what came out of the one-off mills around a lot of these places at the time. The smoothplaned stuff was kept in the city.

            • @[email protected]
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              Yeah looks like pre 60s going back to the 1920s it was sawn to 2x4 inches. There are some standards online per time range. Also found most stuff we worked on pre 50s was hardwood. Trying to cut old studs in some places was a nightmare for our blades. That or it became petrified LOL.

              • @ikidd
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                Fir. That old douglas fir dries hard as nails. Old barns are all nominal thickness and if you buy boards for livestock pens, they’ll all be roughcut full dimension still.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 days ago

        There’s a joke to be made here that the Amish still use actual 2x4’s, but it’s a bit dated.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 days ago

          Part of my work is with manufacturers and dimensional drawing info. Inches can be precise but some North American industries insist on fractional rounding on drawings (as a tolerance signifier). Then they chase QA stuff on why the assembly doesn’t go together per the print. It frustrates me…guys just used decimals!

    • lightrushOP
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      62 days ago

      Shortly after, tradespeople across Canada burst in flames.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 days ago

        Every country that transitioned had some difficulty l, and it is a good idea for a metric country to use metric in construction … but it would make for good political ammunition.

  • Max-P
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    194 days ago

    “We’re going to be demanding respect from other nations,” Trump said.

    Respect needs to be mutual. He sounds like the typical asshole uncle that always acts like they’re owed respect be have never showed any in return.

    • @[email protected]
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      103 days ago

      Most of the world had respect for America before Maga surfaced and it was revealed that it was full of Morons and Nazis. At least more than was suspected before.

    • @[email protected]
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      44 days ago

      This how the aholes in my company treated our vendors. Vendors said go suck it, leading to increasing lead times to “yeah I dk when you’ll get stuff” for a year. The fact it happened 2x in a few year is mine boggling.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 days ago

        Ah, did you work for a Volkswagen or General Motors supplier in the late 1990s and early 2000s?

        Because I recall that exact situation, and the resulting crash of quality.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 days ago

          Rofl I won’t say much but let’s say I’m very certain they were rehired somewhere I know and then fired for the same behavior. Lessons here is don’t hire anyone from auto industry. They are just bullies.

  • Zier
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    103 days ago

    But we do need the Food that Canada grows and exports to the US. So fuck you trump you idiot. He bankrupted a CASINO!!!

  • @[email protected]
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    63 days ago

    I mean we could just close the borders/ air travel a few days a week as a trial run to see how it goes. A trail separation if you will

  • Miles O'Brien
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    74 days ago

    “Felon who has had no need or interest in the price of oil, gas, vehicles or lumber makes statements about the necessity of oil, gas, vehicles, and lumber”

    Fixed the headline

  • lightrushOP
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    I suppose Albertans in oil and gas should call Danielle and tell her to stop the clown tricks and join Team Canada now.

    • @[email protected]
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      That would require them to have the ability to perceive consequences in the future.

      These are the type of people that get a notoriously unstable job making 6 figures on a high school education and immediately lease a brand new $80K truck and start a coke habit because they can currently afford it.

      • @[email protected]
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        04 days ago

        Yeah. That’s the Alberta legislature, but what about its citizens? They’re gonna be out of a job unless Alberta thinks of something else.

        I have an idea: do what Peter lougheed promised to do, which won the election for the cons for the first time in decades. Do that. He didn’t, and they didn’t, so maybe now? Just grab his notes.

        • Phoenixz
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          they’re going to be out of a job

          Isnt that kind of their own fault, though? Aren’t they the ones that keep electing these mini brains who only care about themselves?

        • @[email protected]
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          22 days ago

          Maybe we should do what I’ve been suggesting over and over and over and over and over again when I lived in Alberta and BUILD REFINING CAPACITY.

          I just can’t with them…I worked with so many O&G folks back in my day. Nobody ever wanted to acknowledge our dependence and vulnerability. Just whistling loudly past graveyard after graveyard.

    • @[email protected]
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      -43 days ago

      “Team Canada” is bogus crap. Interprovincial trade barriers mean the cult mantra of "Team Canada is a distraction tactic from blaming the Liberal party for any tariffs and loss of jobs in Canada.

      • @[email protected]
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        13 days ago

        I can’t imagine 12 of 13 premiers would agree on taking some of the heat off of any federal party, especially one that’s all but leaderless.

        • @[email protected]
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          02 days ago

          Is the federal party that you are saying is leaderless? Why do you say 12 out of 13? Who are you not counting, and why?

          • @[email protected]
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            22 days ago

            I’m sure you must know the answers already but clearly I’m replying to your comment and referring to the Liberals, the party whose leader has announced his resignation. And once again, it’s pretty clear Danielle Smith is the odd one out. She refused to sign off on the first ministers letter a couple weeks ago and every single other premier has been specifically quoted as supporting a team Canada approach, even Scott Moe.

            • @[email protected]
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              -31 day ago

              Danielle Smith’s priority is making sure Canadians keep their jobs. Tariffs on Canadian imports results in layoffs of Canadians so they are out of work, out of a job.

              • @[email protected]
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                I’m sure it is, but her approach is like when younger kids are playing sports (hockey, soccer, lacrosse) and there’s that one kid that refuses to play their position and just ends up chasing the ball. Sure, they’re all aiming for the same net, but that one kid can undermine the rest of the team’s strategy. At best the rogue kid leaves an opposing player wide open, at worst they steal the ball from their own teammate and shank it into the stands.

                • @[email protected]
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                  You are wrong, it’s the exact oposite. Smith’s priority is trying to work with the other side to build an agreement, and everybidy else is being a spaz and complaining “We want it our way or we’re not playing! Trump won’t do what we told him, he started ths fight!”

                  If Truseau won’t secure the border to block people crossing illegally in Anerica, Trump has a right to wreck Canada, damage Canadian businesses, and have thousands of people in Canada lose their jobs and be unemployed.

                  Trump never said Canadian shouldn’t accet immigrants, he’s only demanding that Canada block the border to America outside of a USCBP

  • @[email protected]
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    34 days ago

    Arguably accurate on the oil front as the US net exports, but the housing crisis is gonna get real bad after the price of lumber triples, ending all construction…

    • @[email protected]
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      22 days ago

      Esp considering they need to rebuild a good chunk of LA. Bad time to make anything more expensive for anyone.

      • @[email protected]
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        33 days ago

        Oil markets are weird, it seems, and something about different refineries for different oil. It does strike me as odd that we import massive quantities of Canadian oil that’s prone to explode while also exporting massive quantities, but that’s what the official numbers say 🤷‍♂️

    • DominusOfMegadeus
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      It’s ok. After they’re all deported, we won’t have any more migrant laborers to build anything anyway (I’m (sadly) American).

    • lightrushOP
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      Don’t they have to rework their refineries in order to replace Canadian oil? Instead the refineries currently working with Canadian oil are specifically built to process dillbit, due to having been built to use Venezuelan dillbit originally.

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        True, the refineries would be an issue, but I don’t think anyone has thought through what halting all construction is going to do to a housing market with a $24k/year national average to make rent already.

      • @[email protected]
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        That and Canadian oil sells at a discount. Cut off the largest foreign oil supply and replace it with domestic oil that sells at full price, all while every trader knows you are buying up all the excess oil to refill the strategic reserve, and hooo boy are gas prices going to go up.

          • @[email protected]
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            23 days ago

            What’s a conservative talking point? That WCS sells for less than WTI? That’s not at all a political statement, that’s just a fact.

            • justOnePersistentKbinPlease
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              It is a political statement when the problem is framed as one of market access.

              The problem is not market access. The problem is that WCS is very high density and very high sulphur content. Those result in it always selling at a severe discount to WTI.

      • bluGill
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        Also pipelines. sure there is enough oil but canada has a pipeline to minnesota so canadan oil is what they use. North dakota oil does go through minnesota but to a different refinery someplace east that can use it.

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    Going to be so awesome when dealer lots get overfilled with Chrysler minivans and GM SUVs that nobody wants and can’t be exported, meanwhile affordable Chinese EVs that Canadians actually desire are slapped with 100% import tarrifs as protectionism for American and Japanese corporations.

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      Minivans are the best. I own a DGC built in Ottawa. Reliable AF. Huge cargo capacity. Gets 21MPG on the highway. Basically use it as a truck, but it’s way more practical than a truck because the cargo capacity is more and your stuff doesn’t get wet when it rains.

      Only real downsize is tow capacity.

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    He’s probably right wrt the USA needing our exports, as much as it sucks for us.

    Maybe now we’ll actually diversify our industries and seek out new buyers.
    Probably not though, since PP is gonna be in charge and that man baby only wants to double down on selling oil to the USA, and thats the entire extent of his economic plan. And by that I mean he is gonna throw money at oil companies and hope it magically turns into more sales to the USA.
    What’s the opposite of diversify?