I’ve heard people talking about e.g. not subscribing to lemmy.world communities (because they are the largest instance), and others like Lemmygrad seems to be defederated by quite many instances. But what about lemmy.ml? Should that instance and those communities also be avoided? The “issue” is that many large communities seem to be based on that instance. Like [email protected] and [email protected]
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Ehh I’d suggest feeling it out for yourself to be honest. I’ve had some great interactions on .ml communities, as well as .world communities. But also some hair-pulling insanity. That’s where some of the most active conversations happen, but that also means you’re more likely to encounter some trolls and some awful petulant fools. When you do, just unsubscribe from the community or block the user and you’re all set.
Self-curation is one of my favorite things about Lemmy, and it’s why I like .ee as an instance, because it’s quite neutral and they let individual users choose what communities we want to see and don’t force decisions down our throats. The beauty of this place is that you can always switch instances or block communities and users you dislike, you just have to spend some time curating your experience.
You are correct, I think there are quite a few moderate instances out there.
The inner struggle to self curate comes down to summoning the effort between being on passive autopilot and the desire to not fall into an echo chamber by actively listening and participating.
Personally, I’m less scared about getting my feelings hurt and more the need to not be such a lazy fuck;)
Depends on how you feel about communists
As far as far left instances go, ml is actually pretty unspicy, despite the bee in their bonnet people got.
So like, if you can’t stand hanging out with em pinko commies, avoid it. If you’re fine with that, don’t.
The genuine commies are totally fine. It’s the authoritarian apologists that need to fuck right off.
my gauge is simple: do my actual communist friends who know what the USSR was like from firsthand experience agree with them? if yes, that’s a good commie. if not, they’re probably from
.mlI’ve no doubt there are some genuine commies on .ml. The problem is that it’s the other people who are running the instance and moderating the communities.
cough dessalines cough davel cough UltraGiGaGigantic cough, etc etc.
Turns out the mods are in that camp, which kinda clips decent disagreements with an anti Putin rule 1 ban for bigotry lol
I would recommend completely ignoring what Instance people/communities are hosted on
I generally do, but every once in a while I’ll encounter some very interesting circlejerks and realize that I ended up in the lemmy.ml version of AskLemmy, lol
To be fair, the .ml version is the largest so you’ll inevitably see a mix of both thoughtful comments, and horribly stupid comments.
if you can’t handle political content then just excluding worldnews from your feed should be enough
This. Blocking communities you find annoying is the better solution.
I prefer the whitelist option instead. I just read the “subscribed” feed and ignore the “all” feed
I mean that’s how I surf sometimes. But how do you find new content? I’ve found a lot of great stuff scrolling everything.
That is a valid question. Initially, I used the community search to find all the communities I might care about, and subscribed to all of them. Occasionally, I also tried the all feed, but didn’t find anything worth my time, so I stopped doing that. Nowadays, my list of communities is pretty stable.
Occasionally I check what’s going on in [email protected]
Spend a week in memes and you’ll see how categorically untrue that is.
The mods of .ml are pro China/Russia authoritarianists, and will ban you for posting comments that disagree with them. I’ve received a ban for discussing my experiences teaching Taiwanese and Chinese students, because I described the way the Chinese students reacted in the face of evidence that Taiwan is a self-governing sovereign state as “brainwashed.”
I was banned under rule 1, which is listed as being polite and civil. Trust me when I say I have said far more less polite and civil things directly to mods, so it’s concerning that politely expressing real lived experiences that contradicts their opinions on Chinese authoritarianism is what counts as being rude and uncivil around those parts.
I haven’t blocked them. Many of those communities include the founders/creators of Lemmy, so to block the community feels disjointed from the app, to me. But I think twice about wasting my time on individual conversations in or from people in .ml.
I blocked it.
I’m ootl. Why block ml?
They ban any “disrespect” of CCP. I still dont block since I don’t really believe in that but I prefer to comment on less censored communities to seed them as viable alternatives
In circumstances where similar communities exist on multiple instances, I would subscribe to all of them at first—but pay attention to differences in moderation and community norms, and unsubscribe from communities you’re less comfortable with. I wouldn’t judge a community on the basis of its instance without trying it first, unless the instance admins have unusual rules they’re imposing on all their communities.
.ml is unavoidable for some niche tech communities unless you make your own with blackjack and hookers, but for example, Linux has [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], and [email protected]. Privacy has [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], and [email protected].
Yes.
I won’t subscribe, post, or comment in ml.
Personally, I don’t think so. Like you point out if the Marxist Leninist instance has content you enjoy then why would you avoid it? - perhaps just don’t get into overtly political discussions / arguments.
You don’t have to be trans to visit or use a trans instance, non-anarchists can be on the anarchist instances, but do remember where you are and, most importantly, that you’re a guest/visitor and try to act accordingly. The same advice goes for .world
I’ve had no problems wherever I’ve gone - so far.
.ml is fine for anything other than politics, as they will ban over the slightest hint of criticism of China and other communist authoritarian countries. Especially calling anyone a tankie.
But the trchnical and other non-political communities are pretty similar to any other instances communities.
Their modding practices kinda kill flow of ideas as the people who dislike CCP also like privacy lol
I find that mods on .ml are less likely to ban you for common sentiments in America. .world is just Reddit 2
Should you?
Depends on your tolerance for Stalinists and Maoists. I don’t think you have to but I have. Thanks to Dessalines and co for making Lemmy but if you’re going to enact or enable shithead mod rules you’re going to drive people away.
On the plus side, there really aren’t any cryptofascist accounts that survive for long on .ml, and you certainly can’t the say the same for .world and .ee, so there’s at least some benefit to it.
I avoid it because I don’t like authoritarians and genocide denial. But you do you.
I personally refuse to participate in an instance that will ban me from FOSS communities because I mentioned Tiannmen square on their news community.
