cross-posted from: https://ponder.cat/post/1486028

A new artificial intelligence model from China not only upended stock markets this week, it also called into question whether the rush to build new, mostly fossil-fueled power plants to run data centers is premature.

  • hendrik
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    137 days ago

    I’d say if AI gets better and more efficient, it’s likely to be used by more people and applied to more tasks. That would nullify hypothetical energy savings.

    • @Hackworth
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      77 days ago

      More of the energy cost is in training rather than use.

      • hendrik
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        7 days ago

        Sure. But more AI adoption also means more AI training or fine tuning, doesn’t it? I mean the only option where training stops is if it doesn’t make progress any more. So yes, if it’s just one company and there isn’t much competition I’m sure less training will happen. But competition kind of incentivises them to do more. Plus there are other tasks that could be done if we don’t need to all focus on inefficient training of singular big chatbot models… Like multimodality, robotics, specific tasks… Making them more efficient for mobile use, or just more intelligent… I’m sure people will find other uses for the training farms. Or it’ll just become more people. But yeah, we’ll have to see.

    • @CosmoNova
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      57 days ago

      Exactly. There is no end to this and it‘s hardly uplifting news when it isn’t much of news but speculation instead.

    • @glimse
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      137 days ago

      Shut up, man. It’s open source and it doesn’t matter where it came from.

      You sound like a corporate bootlicker. Fuck the CCP but fuck openAI, too.

    • Banana
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      117 days ago

      That’s not the threat you think it is

      • shoulderoforion
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        -67 days ago

        China is an entire economy built on intellectual property thievery and slave labor. The whole thing, that’s their advantage, and source of gdp which perpetuates the CCP’s stranglehold on 1.4 Billion people . Theft and slavery. The Chinese CCP can fuck off into the sun.

        • Banana
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          87 days ago

          The only difference between that and the US is that China calls itself communist (china is communist in the same way the states is a democracy).

          Oh, and the Chinese actually have socialized healthcare.

          • Gadg8eer
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            23 days ago

            As a Canadian, I’ll back you up on that. The CCP itself can fuck off, but at this point the US has become little better. It was built on slavery and the invention of permanent intellectual property to criminalize having knowledge, and it has elected that orange monster a second time. I value my friends, not my country, because your country can still betray you and continue to say it’s still your country.

    • @icecreamtaco
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      7 days ago

      Any censorship they put in will get removed as soon as open source gets their hands on it. They’ve got years of experience at doing this