I have seen a lot of tesla vandalism online the last few days and I’m kind of on the fence about it.
I’ve seen several examples locally here in BC, Canada.
I think totally warranted at newly purchased teslas going forward. Also it serves as a deterrent for potential future buyers.
But vandalizing a car that is a few years old I think is lame. Those driversare already being punished enough by driving something around that’s worth less than scrap.
No but it is moral to smear nasty things on the vehicle.
Cybertruck pre-orders started in 2019, well before Musk’s bigotry was widely known. It was to be the first ev truck on the market, and the pre-order price was tempting. Folks paid for these things and are now stuck with them. You literally are not allowed to sell them. What should those people do?
They are not allowed to sell them? As in by contract or something?
I found an update on that
Tesla won’t even take them as trade-ins anymore. Anyone who owns a dorkmobile is free to stop at any time.
I’m pretty sure the pre-order price was somewhere around $100.
No.
Proles don’t harm proles
Save your potential jail time for the billionaires and landlords
Writing on it in dirt or snow? Sure.
With a sticker that can be easily removed? Sure.
Anything else? Probably not.
Just make sure you don’t do anything that might cause severe and permanent damage like spritzing a little water on it.
I mean urine and faeces can technically be washed off.
But if you piss on it it will just disintegrate.
It’s a pitty that it’s so controversial to vandalize SUV but vandalizeing a Tesla is seen as fine. Tesla aren’t great for the climate either, but compared to SUV they’re way better.
Vandalising a telsa directly harms musk financially.
How?
Reduces their desirability. People buy shit cars like that for status symbol. If people can turn buying and owning Tesla cars into something that reduces your social status people will be deterred from buying it, reducing sales, therefore tanking Tesla shares.
Op used the word directly, what you describe sounds more indirect to me. I may be a bit pedantic, but musk isn’t going to pay to repair vandalized Tesla’s.
reducing sales, therefore tanking Tesla shares.
The Tesla share is so much on a bubble, that the 60% drop in sales didn’t impact the share value at all. Between people not wanting to give their money to Musk, BYD attacking the EU/US market, and every brand offering some electric car this tendency will stay, I don’t see how Tesla is worth 20 times more than Toyota.
Vandalism is always bullshit and a gargantuan dick move.
Especially against stuff owned by a private person. Someone saved for that or worse: took out a loan for it. That car represents a year, 2 years or even more of work.
There is nothing what justifies it.
I dont like [billionaire]. Lets destroy the property of [random dude] who probably also doesn’t like [billionaire].
It’s bullshit.
I dont like trump. Just give me your adress so I can destroy your home. What do you say? You dont like Trump either, you only laughed once during the dumb bullshit of the apprentice? There you have it! Let me wreck all your shit!
You can explain it away all you like but its still bullshit.
OP is including writing “wash me” in the dust on the rear window in “vandalism”.
That doesn’t financially harm anyone and is obviously not the same as burning someone’s house down.
OP is including writing “wash me” in the dust on the rear window in “vandalism”.
Did they say so in a comment?
I don’t see it in the OP post.Anyway, I don’t think of selective cleaning when I hear vandalism.
And I agree with the previous comment, that destroying property is not the moral thing to do.OP’s reply to this comment.
While I mostly agree, let me point out that a random person is not going to get a CT. It’s almost 100% rich, right-wing tech-bros or fElon fanboys, or narcissistic assholes. If anyone is blowing away that much money, they have either researched the market and have put a higher weight on looks, ideology or signalling loyalty than on any practical aspects - or they have done no research at all. Both cases deserve to be ridiculed.
People buying a Toyota aren’t expressing support for Koji Sato’s work policies resulting in deaths from overwork. In fact most people buying a car don’t care in the slightest who happens to be the CEO of that car manufacturer.
They might just like the retrofuturistic shape, and aren’t interested in politics.
Even if they were “almost 100%” right wing tech bros, it doesn’t excuse messing with a private person’s shit.
People need to target the problem, rather than infighting.
Yes, that’s the “mostly agree” part. 👍
how much money puts you above the proletarian mark? people are working hard and still struggling. other people are creaming off their capital and buying expensive trinkets as a sign. it seems moral to make their lives difficult. and taking your expensive Tesla car to be repaired every month is the tax on your stupidity.
No answer to your question is relevant, as there is no line where vandalising someone’s shit becomes acceptable. Let alone based on someone’s gut reaction that owning a particular car makes someone scum
a long time ago, in Berlin districts to reduce gentrification they used to scope out the expensive cars and then gentry lay a lit barbeque firelighter under the wheel.
That’s the legend. In reality they burned down the old van of a friend of mine because he had a Polish license plate.
Yes. It was a Neonazi from Britz doing it. He primarily targeted foreign cars, vehicles of local left politicians (Die Linke and SPD candidates of Neukölln both had their cars burned). He also lit up a few expensive cars, but that might have been because he ran out of “legitimate” targets.
Why would the gentry harm expensive cars? Those would be their own cars.
and it turned out to be too little…
Cybertrucks? Yeah. There’s a very specific kind of person that buys a cybertruck. They know who Elon is and what he stands for.
Other Teslas? No. Many bought them before Elon turned out to be a nazi spawn.
Still this vandalism will scare potential buyer from buying a car that is hated enough to vandalize.
People hate Musk so Tesla’s are damaged. Then insurance pays or the perpetrator pays if caught. Tesla is repaired in an authorized workshop and Musk’s cash register rings.
That’s how you ruin billionaires! /s
people stop buying them as they are more trouble than they are worth.
Yes, people who believe in electric vehicles but not in the company or the person. Tesla was the first to establish itself and was permanently in the media in the West. Many people didn’t find out what the market looked like but went by what they already knew.
So all the Musk fanatics are sticking with Tesla.
( you make more money with the dumb folk… so in long term the musk fanatics)
You’ve seen the headlines about telsa sales tanking right? In some markets by 50% or 60%. That’s a big deal.
First movers do enjoy a special privilege but I’m not sure how sticky that will be in this case. Musk’s political views are at odds with people that are environmentally conscious.
Those views are now indefeasible from the brand and this kind of “vandalism” (provided it doesn’t significantly damage the vehicle) is a great way to reinforce that connection.
You forgot the part where the insurance cost goes up for all insured people even if they don’t own a Tesla.
goddam who invited all these capitalist pussies to lemmy? shitting and pissing about some dirt wew fucking lad
Cybertruck owners deserve to be bullied you can’t change my mind
Yea i actually feel irrationally angry when i see one. They are the embodiment of everything wrong with western society in one single object
The anger is rational.
We don’t like rolling dumpster fires.
No, but it is moral to disrupt Tesla’s supply chain.
Writing in the dust is fine imo
Some people got teslas before they realized elon was nazi garbage. However, if you got a cybertruck, might be fair game.
I’d say vandalising a Cybertruck is 100% ok. Or at least 99% ok.
