Ugh. Really off this morning and for a few minutes this was posted to news. Anyway this is a topic that has come up every so often not only with her kids but back when she was just drawing about herself. I wonder if the swinging arms is intentional given the quote about freedom ending when you make contact with another.

  • @Tattorack
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    I don’t think it’s that complicated at all.

    You have a right to your own personal space, so long as it doesn’t encroach upon the personal space of others. Use your personal space, but also be respectful of the personal space of others, as everyone is entitled to the same rights you have.

    • partial_accumen
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      You’re doing a good job of encapsulating the Harm Principle

      “The harm principle is often explained as ‘your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.’ In other words, people should be free to act as they wish as long as their actions do not cause harm to others.”

      • HubertManneOP
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        Ironically I would also argue that art is subjective to the experiencer.

        • @Lost_My_Mind
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          Historically speaking, SOMEONE has had to have licked the mona lisa. They may not still be alive, but somebody has experienced that art with their taste buds.

    • @Lost_My_Mind
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      010 days ago

      No no no…you got it all wrong! Nobody has any rights, corndogs are the only food, and only infant babies are allowed to be mothers.

    • HubertManneOP
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      yes now just provide me with the exact radius that signifies personal space. The point where one millimeter before is fine and one millimeter closer is encroachment.

        • HubertManneOP
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          I really don’t see it being a big deal if someone is 1.99m near me. Im going to go out on a limb but I think the number may be different for each individual.

          • @AWistfulNihilist
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            Do me a favor and round up to 2.5, cause you seem like the kind of person who wouldn’t respect the 2 anyway.

            • HubertManneOP
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              Its hard having what should be a concise conversation when its with various peanut gallery remarks. If you have been reading the whole chain, the point I have been trying to make is its an individual thing and thus it is complicated. From the person who seems to have no personal space concepts and hugs and leans on everyone to the person who wants 2.5 meters its a wide range. Then of course it changes based on environment. Anyone taking public transit at rush hour knows they will have to deal with minimal personal space. Getting back to my first reply on it if folks just use what they think is personal space then they will basically be mean to other folks.

              • @Tattorack
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                210 days ago

                It’s not complicated at all. Stretch your arms out as far as you can. That’s your personal space. No need for exact measurements, and everyone can make consessions on crowded condition. We already do so anyway.

                • HubertManneOP
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                  yeah but that definition is fine for you but not for everyone. Basically your just taking your definition and saying everyone should feel comfortable with what you feel is comfortable.

      • @[email protected]
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        You’re asking for a ridiculously exact quantification of a very subjective matter. I hope you did it as a joke, or are planning to revolutionize math with the impossible knowledge acquired.

        If you were serious, define your personal space, and look if it makes others uncomfortable. Adjust accordingly for each individual. Your friend will likely have a different tolerance than a restaurant waiter, for example.

        • HubertManneOP
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          010 days ago

          that is the point. have you read through the various commentary. several people came onto the thread. Anyway my end point is its subjective and thus complicated.