Way to go, Florida man

    • Flying Squid
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      So basically, everyone involved in this incident is a terrible person. Lovely.

        • @P1nkman
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          GTA VI will not be able to top the real world. GTA VII will just be a life simulator.

          • Noxy
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            I can’t wait for Radio Cosmo Canyon

    • @[email protected]
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      Get shot by Zionist for looking too Arab

      Post “Death to Arabs”

      Zionism is one hell of a cult.

    • @Aqarius
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      Clown-on-clown violence

    • @NABDad
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      Did he get shot in the head, or was he always a moron?

      • @[email protected]
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        Zionism is the international policy uniparty position of the American government. Quite literally, that government is Nazism for thee but not for me.

      • @[email protected]
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        That comparison betrays your ignorance of history and present and is blatant antisemitism.

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      *stick in bicycle spoke meme

      • @[email protected]
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        Is that like the retirement home district or just a local name for a really famous alligators cloaca?

        • @ZeffSyde
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          Famous Alligator Cloaca is going to be the name of my next experimental noise project.

          • @[email protected]
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            “Welcome back, we will continue with the sweet sweet noise of alligator cloaca in just a moment, but now let us visit our sponsors over at the Elderly Alligator retirement home.”

    • @Zaderade
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      Is that not edited in after the fact? Look at the fonts and obvious overlay.

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s translated. He links to the original if you want to try translating it yourself to confirm.

  • @grue
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    Because if they really were Palestinians, obviously that would’ve been perfectly A-OK?

    • @WhatAmLemmy
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      This is the propaganda we are sold, yes.

      • @[email protected]
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        A Palestinian shooting Palestinians because he mistook them for Israeli Jews would have been just as terrible and sad.

  • The Quuuuuill
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    at the core of every genocide is some sickeningly arbitrary difference that not even the people enacting the genocide can fully discern. Palestinians are indigenous to the Levant, just like Jews were. they just survived the ethnic cleansing enacted by the romans differently. similarly by both russia, and many Ukrainians telling of the origins of the rus, they originated from Kyiv. back in the 1930s and 40s, the Germans had to invent more and more arbitrary ways to identify Jews because since resettlement in Galitsye (today divided between Germany, Chzechia, Poland, russia, and Ukraine) Jews integrated themselves into the indigenous population (in large part thanks to unprecedented religious tolerance on behalf of the people of Galitsye and later Poland) meaning telling who was and wasn’t Jewish was hard to impossible for the German officers responsible for deciding who to kill.

    my point is this: arbitrarily killing Palestinians is antisemitic. it runs even a little deeper than simply “Palestinians are semitic, just like me” given that their cultural traditions are shared. it gets into violence against my sister is violence against me. harm against Palestinians is harm against Jews. once there are no more identifiably Palestinian people left to kill, next will come the Jews who aren’t identifiably non-Palestinian enough. and who decides who that is? where does the killing stop?

    the best way to avoid being killed in a genocide is to prevent genocide from happening. the second best way is to bring ongoing genocides to an end. unfortunately, it is falling to us, the populace, to defend ourselves from the military apparatus of the imperial powers of the globe. a great battle is about to unfold between the forces of good, evil, and indifference, just as it has approximately every 80 years throughout history. part of our aim in thi; battle is to preserve our message that we were here. that there was good in the world even at its worst.

    i hope you’ve read a diary of a young girl by anne frank, and understand its gravity. it breaks my heart that a 13 year old saw all of what i’m seeing and chose to make her death meaningful as a story that passes this tale of resistance and kindness in the face of atrocity to me, but the point is that her voice made it through. so please, don’t put her pain to waste. start taking actions you think 80 years from now someone who learns what you did during this time will be proud of, and find inspiring. even if it’s something as simple as documenting the things you see, or growing food to share with your neighbors.

    do what our ancestors did when faced with these times, plant trees the shade of which your physical body will never rest under

    • @stoly
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      Careful. Zionists get very sad if you mention that Arabs are Semites.

      • The Quuuuuill
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        Fuck the Zionists. FUCK THE ZIONISTS. Zionism is anti-semitic and not just because it’s anti-arab. It’s fuckin’ anti-jewish.

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          I agree. I was being ironic.

          • The Quuuuuill
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            No I know. But I need the Zionists in the back to hear I said FUCK THE ZIONISTS.

    • @[email protected]
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      Palestinians is antisemitic. it runs even a little deeper than simply “Palestinians are semitic

      Antisemitism only means hatred of Jews and nothing else. Trying to water the term down like you’re doing is extremely bad faith and usually done to give cover to antisemites.

      That said, yes, many Palestinians have Jewish ancestors.

      once there are no more identifiably Palestinian people left to kill, next will come the Jews

      That’s some shizo level rambling.

      • The Quuuuuill
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        Don’t tell me how to interface with hatred against my Jewish identity that I have to face every day. Don’t tell me to look at the hate perpetrated in my name against my sisters and not to speak against it, especially when the hatred is deranged and twisted and harms me as well. You’re welcome to disagree with me that our two people’s are intrinsically linked to each other by history and culture, which apparently you do, but this is not a bad faith argument. This is something I believe with my entire heart. Jews and Palestinians are one people. Zionism is an act of hate against both.

        • @[email protected]
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          You’re welcome to disagree with me that our two people’s are intrinsically linked to each other by history and culture

          I agree with that part.

          Your abuse of the word antisemitism is what I take issue with.

      • @[email protected]
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        You gonna tell us you can’t be a Nazi unless you’re in 1940’s Germany sieg heiling to Hitler next? lol

        Fucking dumb fuck pedants.

        • @Alwaysnownevernotme
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          Isn’t it funny what end of this quote Israel is on these days

          Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

    • @[email protected]
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      Palestinians is antisemitic. it runs even a little deeper than simply “Palestinians are semitic

      Antisemitism only means hatred of Jews and nothing else. Trying to water the term down like you’re doing is extremely bad faith and usually done to give cover to antisemites.

      That said, yes, many Palestinians have Jewish ancestors.

      once there are no more identifiably Palestinian people left to kill, next will come the Jews

      That’s some shizo level rambling.

        • @[email protected]
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          Not really used as a term anymore outside of anti-semite meaning anti-jew

          But yes, they are both in the Middle East

        • comfy
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          Technically yes, although the term “anti-Semitic” (as the German word Antisemitismus) originally became established through specifically anti-Jewish conspiracy writings in the late 1800s. So the term “anti-semitic” generally means anti-Jewish, rather than literally being against Semitic peoples.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Origin_and_usage

    • @TrueStoryBob
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      It’ll be renamed to the “Holy Land of America” on Google maps any day now, so I guess they’ll all get called “Ameristinians” as a catch-all term.

      OBVIOUSLY /s

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        They’ll probably call themselves Patresortians to reflect how great patriots they are to be proud of making such a terrible place so beatiful (in their minds).

        Same way American emmigrants like to call expats instead of emmigrants

    • @[email protected]
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      Israeli prime minister Golda Meir said she’s a Palestinian.

      The use of the word Palestinian changed over time. Before the establishment of Israel Palestinian was often used specifically to refer to Jews living in the holy land. Lots of Jewish founded institutions like airlines, newspapers, sports teams, orchestras were named Palestinian. They changed their names after Israel was founded.

      The Arabs used Palestinian as their national identity only after Israel was established. The Palestinian identity as we know it today coalesced in the 1960s.

      Before the British Mandate for Palestine, the Arabs in the region tended to identify as Syrian.

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      Somehow the takes responding to this post (tho satirical) just kept getting hotter

    • @[email protected]
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      During the British mandate they called themselves Palestinians. Because of their independence they’re no anymore

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    I miss the old days when all racism was bad.

  • @[email protected]
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    Racists are never the sharpest tools in the shed. Most racist man I ever knew was never wronged by anyone except people of his own race, go figure.

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    Like all for all other Nazi-style movements, Zionists are going into the next stage of ethno-Fascism: the part were the Zionists start killing other members of the ethnicity they claim to represent for “not being White enough”.

    (Just go check how they treat Ethiopian Jews is Israel if you have any doubt that they’re a white supremacist movement)

    • @[email protected]
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      Those evil white supremacists Jews got out of their way to save Ethiopian Jews with covert airlifts. There were continuous efforts to bring Ethiopia Jews to Israel, lead by Natanyahu among others.

      Sure there’s prejudice around skin color and discrimination, but isn’t this the case all around the world? Ethiopian Israelis have their struggles, but overall their community is doing very well. Bibi Netanyahu has many times publicly denounced racism against Ethiopian Jews and met with victims of violence. Here Bibi celebrates an Ethiopian IDF officer publicly as a hero to standing ovations. There are special scholarships for Ethiopian Jews to higher education and integrate them better into society. The IDF makes an effort in this field as well.

      Let’s listen to what Ethiopian Jews have to say about this,

      https://youtu.be/uBFN91t2z28?si=_udk-Q_6VVkwqNKH&t=236

      Why do black Palestinians in Gaza mostly live in a quarter named Al Abeed meaning literally slave?

      Nazi-style movements, Zionists

      Oh it’s blatant antisemitism time again.

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        It’s not antisemitism, it’s anti-Zionism. And accusations of Zionism being fascist aren’t new. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun

        An extract: ‘Albert Einstein, in a letter to The New York Times in 1948, compared Irgun and its successor Herut party to “Nazi and Fascist parties” and described it as a “terrorist, right wing, chauvinist organization”.’

        But what would a genius German Jew who escaped the Holocaust know about fascism, right?

        • @[email protected]
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          The Irgun were legit far right terrorists and committed atrocities.

          Here’s what Einstein actually said about Zionism.

          Long before the emergence of Hitler I made the cause of Zionism mine because through it I saw a means of correcting a flagrant wrong…The Jewish people alone has for centuries been in the anomalous position of being victimized and hounded as a people, though bereft of all the rights and protections which even the smallest people normally has…Zionism offered the means of ending this discrimination. Through the return to the land to which they were bound by close historic ties…Jews sought to abolish their pariah status among peoples… The advent of Hitler underscored with a savage logic all the disastrous implications contained in the abnormal situation in which Jews found themselves. Millions of Jews perished… because there was no spot on the globe where they could find sanctuary…The Jewish survivors demand the right to dwell amid brothers, on the ancient soil of their fathers.

          If we wait until the Great Powers and the United Nations fulfill their commitments to us then our Palestinian brothers [i.e. the Jews in Palestine] will be under the ground before this is accomplished" and "On the destiny of our Palestinians [i.e. the Jews in Palestine] will depend, in the long run, the destiny of the remaining Jews in the world. For no one respects or bothers about those who do not fight for their rights

          Albert Einstein was a socialist labor Zionist, which was the mainstream of Zionism back then.

          Einstein left Germany in 1932 before the Nazis took power. His nationality was Swiss, not German.

          To you Einstein is just a token Jew to use for your campaign of hate. You don’t give an actual shit about him or the Holocaust. They’re only tools to fight against Israel‘s existence. It’s the vile face of contemporary antisemitism.

          • @[email protected]
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            Uhhhhhh no it’s not. There is nothing about believing that Israel is committing a genocide against the Palestinian people (they are) that prevents someone from simultaneously believing that the holocaust happened and was just as bad as is commonly understood (it did and it was).

            It’s like saying that accusing me of being a thief is denying that time I was robbed.

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              I like that you’re theft and robbery as comparisons, because these have a major difference. Robbery always includes violence or the threat of violence.

              You shoplift a candy bar from a Korean owned shop. Your fathers house was burgled by Koreans who killed your mother and stole all jewelry and the car.

              Not the same.

          • @[email protected]
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            Ignoring the fascist nature of Zionism is is ignoring the holocaust that is currently occurring? Fuck out of here.

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              Nice Holocaust denial you got there. What’s happening in Gaza is terrible but not like Holocaust.

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                You can’t just call everything you disagree with holocaust denial. Doing so is holocaust denial.

  • Flying Squid
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    I assume if he had shot Palestinians like he thought he did, DeSantis would have given him some sort of award.

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    “Them wiggly letters and beards, they must be terrorists!”

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    Anyone left at the justice department for those hate crime charges? Seems like an open and shut case

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    it will be the year 9999 and we will still be reading about the “Man in Florida”

    BTW Free Palestine

  • TheLowestStone
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    Good thing this jackass had terrible aim.

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      He used 17 shots and the result:

      sent the two victims to the hospital for their wounds, with one reportedly shot in the shoulder and the other hit in the forearm

      So yes, that was lucky!

      the suspect, 27-year-old Mordechai Brafman, who shot them 17 times, was charged with attempted murder.

      So I guess the shooter was lucky too, he survived the arrest.

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            The real question: Is their skin pale enough to benefit from white privilege? B/c that’s all that “whiteness” is.

            • @[email protected]
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              Being able to pass for white at times and actually being accepted as white is not the same.

              • Flying Squid
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                And the racists say: Jews are not white. The Nazis said it all the time—the project of the Jews, as far as they were concerned, was to undermine the Aryan white races. And the exclusion of Jews from the category of whiteness is still key to present-day white supremacists.

                Also:

                Well, according to the law of Schrödinger’s Whites, a brilliant conceit that I am not responsible for, in which Jews are white or non-white depending on the politics of the observer, in this context Krug’s Jewishness enhances the story.

                ― David Baddiel, Jews Don’t Count

                (Highly recommend that book, by the way.)

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                  If you start with the premise Jews are evil, you just lump them with everything else you consider evil. Skin color is just one of many categories of convenience.

            • Flying Squid
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              That’s obviously not all whiteness is when the richest man in the world says you don’t belong to the white club.

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              vampire being the most pale of them, someone like bryan johnson, who ironically thinks consuming/injecting blood makes him look younger.

  • @Gammelfisch
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    Stand your ground? Anyway, the differences between the brothers, Isaac and Ishmael, are minimal.

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      They literally did. One of the victims allegedly posted on Instagram some pics from the aftermath of the shooting and wrote “Death to Arabs” in Hebrew. Imagine the uproar and condemnation if someone posts the same slogan for them?