So I used to put my cart back all the time but then I found out it creates jobs for people that cant get a job. Some one getting out of jail living in a half way home can use these jobs to get out of their situation. I no longer put it back.
Always cart corral or reserved police parking.
fucking ALWAYS.
Nobody posted the copypasta yet? I guess it’s gotta be me, then.
I watched someone in a Costco parking lot shove his cart onto one of those berms at the end of a row, very obviously about to walk away from it. I was already frustrated, so I walked over and basically yanked it from him, saying something to the effect of “no don’t worry I’ll get it” in a very “you’re part of the problem” tone.
It felt nice, I’m not gonna lie.
Edit: looks like the idiots who this meme is directed at are out in force lol
My local Costco recently removed the coin locks. Almost immediately, trolleys were fucking everywhere except in the bay.
The coin locks never bothered me because I have a pick for them on my keys. And yes, I return the damn trolley every time.
Well done.
Yes, smug self satisfaction at the expense of others feels nice. You do you bro.
Sounds like the other guy didn’t have to do Costco’s job, and you got to feel smug and superior without any real reason. Win win win
Do you throw trash on the ground because it’s the custodian’s job to pick it up?
Can you explain why you believe this analogy is valid? I don’t think you can, but I’d absolutely love to see you try.
Just because it’s someone’s job to tidy up doesn’t make it okay to be messy.
We got a live one
A live one what? I don’t use shopping carts because I’m not a cuck.
What a wild sentiment haha. Guy’s so insecure that he thinks using a SHOPPING CART will make him less manly.
Why is being a cuck anything to do with manliness?
What does one’s kinks have to do with their shopping practices?
Our guy installed wheels on his arms and legs in order to get the fully uncucked shopping experience, likely because he’s just built different.
You’re really weird
What dont ones kinks have to do with shopping?
Maybe don’t be an asshole by lodging it on a berm behind another car and just walk the extra 20 feet to put your fucking cart in the corral.
Oh I didn’t do that. You’re confusing me with the person you met in the Costco parking lot. But I am not them!
Came to the comments just to look for this.
Smug virtue signaling anyone?
Found the animal.
Of all the things to get your panties in a twist about. Oh, world’s on fire, I’m going to make cart etiquette a big thing.
Exactly, the world is on fire and www are verging ww3. People that can’t do the bare minimum can’t be trusted in current times.
Yeah, etiquette is important. I’ll tell you off for queue jumping too, if you like. Did your parents not teach you to pick up after yourself? Do you need to be sent back to kindergarten?
We’re all on the same side here — on Lemmy and the Fediverse.
This is something I care about.
I want people to abandon corporate social media and I want them to support and use Federared options run by cool people.
That’s you.
That you spend your time worrying about carts is not really relevant to what connects us.
I just want to let you know that I can be courteous and professional and interested and interesting and still believe that carts are not a big deal.
The topic of this post, on the memes community, is shopping carts. I think it is an okay place to share our opinions about lazy people.
How else do I get my £ back?
One time someone gave us a free cart at Aldi and my wife took the quarter instead of paying it forward. This is the worst thing she has ever done as far as I can tell.
How else do i get my tenth of a £ back?
I wish this was a thing outside Alidi in the US
This is mostly an American thing. They/we tend to be more entitled and very selfish. Often making excuses for bad behavior with lines like “I’m keeping people employed”. No stupid, you’re increasing our groceries because of your selfishness.
Now I live in Taiwan and have visited many countries and found out that this is not the norm. Most people care about the community their live in and oftentimes put back their carts.
Another example of American entitlement. Americans often throw trash on the ground in parking lots because the trash cans are too far away or they can’t find one. Again the same excuses, “Keeping these people employed”.
In Taiwan(and Japan), if you can’t find a trash can, you take your trash home with you. You actually have a hard time finding a bin in public here. But our streets are typically very clean. Because we care about the community and the people here are less selfish.
Creating jobs for the sake of creating jobs is the stupidest anyway.
Where in the US? It’s pretty common where I’m from to put shopping carts back in their corral.
Issaquah WA which is an affluent area east of Seattle.
I also lived in Los Angeles and some of these people take the carts pass the corral and all the way to their neighborhoods.
I’ll take your work on Issaquah being affluent and blame it on that and LA is just LA.
And you’ll be heavily fined if you don’t carry your trash home. Personally I prefer public trash cans, especially when I’m visiting a place hours from home. That way I can enjoy being there rather than carrying soggy trash with me for ten hours. But to each their own.
We are not encouraged to carry our trash home because of “fines”. We do it because it’s the right thing to do if you can’t find a trash bin.
I have carried my trash for hours before I found a bin. It’s the norm to do that and we even have methods to carry it more effectively.
Gross
No but really, I find that grosser than litter. Litter isn’t pleasant and it eventually gets into bad places like water, but I’d much much much rather a bunch of litter around than having to carry (many types of) trash around.
This is not to say that I personally litter on any but biodegradable stuff (apple cores ex), just that I can get it if theres no bins.
Gross? Are you taking dumps in trashbins or wtf?? Carrying basic trash (packaging? Plastic? Paper?) in a bag isn’t gross if done properly. But I do agree that having trashbins is just easier. It’s just that some places don’t have them (wildlife parks, mountains…).
Just institute a back seat compost system like I did as a teenager. You just have to stir it up every once in a while.
Bonus is nobody asks you for a ride or for help moving, and eventually, you can just leave your windows down and the raccoons will do most of the work for you.
Wow downvoted for public trash cans. What a microcosm Lemmy is. Not sure of what.
I countered your downvote with my lone upvote. Thanks for commenting.
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You absolutely won’t have the savings passed onto you if the store fires one of the cart managers. That’s the same logic as thinking self checkout makes store prices cheaper. Maybe if every store were locally owned it might work that way, but we’re far from that sort of system.
Nobody said the savings will trickle down to consumers. But best believe it will INCREASE if enough idiots do stupid things.
They didn’t ask for an example of American broken thinking but you provided it anyway because it’s another thing Americans excel at.
I return the carts and I don’t litter, but lets not lie about the effects of cart returning on socioeconomic outcomes. That’s bullshit and you know it.
In b4 someone unironically tries to defend not putting their cart back. There’s always one.
One? Like a solid 10% of the thread wtf
Should’ve said at least one
There’s always one.
Confirmed, it seems one did. Sigh.
My husband wouldn’t put the cart away.
But he has cerebral palsy which made walking back to the car without the cart for stability difficult when he was shopping alone. He actively liked if someone left a cart in the handicapped hatch mark area because then it would be close so he could grab that going into the store and be balanced against it.
He did know it wasn’t ideal though, and I’d take the carts back when I started shopping with him.
Every rule has its exception, it makes sense that physically handicapped people shouldn’t be treated as strictly with rules concerning physical activities.
Anyone parking in a handicap spot is the one type of person no one should judge when they don’t put their cart away.
Shouldn’t, but people absolutely do judge them! They also judge if they think you shouldn’t be in a handicap spot period. So many people get huffy when they see my (what appears to be) able body get out of the car then…oh shit, my visibly disabled husband!
People getting upset about handicap spots are morons. I’m sure there is some overlap between them and those who don’t return carts.
Sometimes I don’t put the cart in the corral…
I take it back into the store because it’s closer than the nearest corral. Or I take my bags out before I go into the parking lot and leave the cart in the lobby cart storage.
I don’t have time for that. and someone else gets paid to do it!
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Idk. I put my cart back but I have heard an occasional decent argument why someone wouldn’t.
One of the biggest ones is a single parent shopping alone with multiple small children. I get that ideally the cart corral probably isn’t super far away, but leaving small kids alone for even a short period of time must be nerve wracking and not always safe depending on the area and climate.
Have had mutinies small children. Always put the cart away. Doors lock and children aren’t that fragile.
bruh, I was trained as a child to put them back, we would start putting them back as soon as our parents lift the last bag out of it
probably a hot take but if your child can walk by themselves, putting the cart back is definitely a doable chore.
I’m creating jobs. When you push the cart you’re pushing wealth from the cart pushers to the CEO of Walmart.
The CEO isn’t paying that salary. It’s a cost of business. A business you’re paying for as a customer. All the customers pay a percentage of a nickel extra for shopping in a store that has a cart returner on the payroll.
I suppose ithe job pays badly and isn’t very interesting. It’s not something I’d waste my life doing. I wouldn’t want my kids to do it either. Actually I wouldn’t recommend it for anyone. Life has much more to offer than pushing carts all day.
So, congratu-fucking-lations, you’ve created a job that nobody ought to do and made everyone pay for keeping a sorry ass kid on poverty wage.
Ok, so you’d argue that by pushing the cart back, then you’re the one doing the same meaningless job for free. Good point, right?
But here’s the catch: Nobody ever needs to return a cart.
There are at least two ways to do this.
One: We can all accept that the cart doesn’t have a home to be returned to and just leave them wherever and pick them up at the same place. This is obviously the chaotic neutral way.
Two: Pack your groceries in bags in the cart after (or while) paying. When you push the cart back towards the car, you walk by the cart corral, pick up your bags and walk to the car while leaving the cart in the corral. It’s fucking magic.
Oh, first off to be clear the wealth is transferred to the shareholders, not the CEO (though the latter is often the former). I can’t recall if I was trying to be evocative by saying CEO, or if it was just a slip of the tongue. Skill issue.
Cart pushing might sound like a silly example, fair enough. Though here it’s important as a debate battleground for the reality of labor struggle, I really doubt customers pushing carts is going to decisively shift the balance of power & destroy western civilisation. There is also the fact that the people doing this work might not be aware of their interests, and might get annoyed by people leaving carts out. That does harm.
You’re right that in theory the externality is split between the customers & shareholders. However, in reality when the costs are reduced the shareholders are generally able to pocket the difference as profit, since customers don’t have access to perfect information about how they’re being screwed. In theory this is counteracted by the free market’s ability to produce efficient prices (competitors will compete). But in reality it isn’t: Look around. Everything’s going up. They’re taking it.
It sucks that there’s low quality work. But what do you think will happen if that work isn’t available? If someone had that job, they could pay for rent & food. Without it? They will starve. That’s what happened in the 19th century. They. Just. Died. We, fortunately, haven’t seen what that looks like because the west is broadly still protected by the social welfare systems built in the 20th. My friend worked as a Walmart cart pusher, without that job he’d have had nothing.
Edit: ok basically you. Mr Walmar, cuck chair
Now there’s more than one and they’re running mental gymnastics to claim that pro-social behavior is simping for corpos. Special kind of entitled faux-leftism there.
This wojack shit is so tired.
This is such a weak post. You really wanna be a good steward of carts? Get one from the corral on the way in instead of using one from the inside. Especially if it’s not out of the way. Make the cart retriever’s job even easier. Especially on super hot/cold days.
I do this, not because I’m courteous but because if I take one from the outdoor corrals I don’t have to wait behind three grannies slowly selecting carts from the inside corral.
It doesn’t matter what the reasoning is. The net effect is positive.
It’s important to maintaining my self-image as a cool and aloof guy that you know I’m not doing the nice thing out of the goodness of my heart.
No problem, Han Solo.
This is the way.
Also, by taking a cart from the corral and bringing it in with you, you’re actively modeling a virtuous behavior you hope people emulate, which does more to correct the problem than whining online about it.
But it does make me wonder about us sometimes. How did we get this way? How did “Fuck everybody else; got mine” become the default way Americans think? Am I the weird one for being raised to be thoughtful about these kinds of choices?
I don’t claim to be perfect. I’ve had bad days when I take advantage that permissiveness-inconsiderateness that I see around me all the time, but I always know that it’s wrong, and that I’m doing an inconsiderate thing, but that my frustration affords me the grace to be selfish about this one thing.
One of the Academy Award nominated short films this year is Instruments of a Beating Heart, about a class of Japanese first-grade students preparing to perform Ode to Joy for the new first year students that will take their places. It’s primarily about the struggle of one girl, but set against the backdrop of Japanese grade school life, student responsibility and expectation-setting for young humans experiencing their first non-familial social environments. It made me think “Well, at least these kids are going to be alright.”
The most generous explanation I can get is that people who don’t put them in the corrals think they’re not as bad as other people not leaving them in the corrals because “hey, at least I put it on the curb,” or “hey, at least I didn’t didn’t leave it in the handicap area,” or “hey, at least I didn’t put it on a slope so it won’t hit any cars,” etc.
I also think there is just a ton of classism here. A lot of people feel better by belittling others. I think on some level the working class realizes they’re being taken advantage of, but rather than taking it out in those above them they make others feel lower than themselves. “I am a hard worker. I put in 60 hours a week. My body wasted away. I am honorable for doing this to support my family. I am not lazy. I have skills. Minimum wage workers at the shopping center are lazy and have no skills. I am doing them a favor. I will not stoop to their level by performing such tasks.” I think it makes working class people feel like royalty to belittle other working class people they view as less than themselves.
I don’t know how it got like this. I can make guesses all day long but I really don’t know.
Cart retriever ? Why is that even a job.
Because otherwise the parking lot would just be a mess of carts randomly left everywhere.
Yea, no such thing in my country. Practically everyone returns the cart.
Even if they do, in the US there are cart corrals in the parking lot that you leave them in. They need to be emptied and brought back to the store when they fill up.
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The litmus test for civility.
The most basic test to separate people from beasts.
Narrator: They aren’t.
You’d have to be some sort of lazy bones to not do something so simple.
What an awesome channel
joke’s on you, i use a shopping bag
Well, put your bag back in the bag corral.
i bring the bag from home.
