• @[email protected]
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    156 hours ago

    Well, it really hasn’t given me much reason to upgrade from my PS4 Pro. So…Yeah…

    PS3 backwards compatibility would’ve sold me though.

      • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮
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        Don’t forget emulated PS1 and PS2 games!

        Related: I got PS+ for my birthday and saw they had Indiana Jones in the catalog and downloaded it without really looking. I thought it was the new one; it was a PS2 game. lol

  • Scrubbles
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    4210 hours ago

    Shocking. When your entire customer base asks “why?” When you announce a product that’s usually a good indicator. Also wasn’t it like 800 dollars?

    • Voytrekk
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      86 hours ago

      $700, but I agree that this was a stupid product. If instead, they introduced the slim at $350 and the pro at $500, these things would be hard to find on store shelves.

    • FiveMacs
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      1310 hours ago

      I wouldn’t know…I stopped falling for the console trap after PS3. Only thing since was a PS4 controller, for my PC

      • @besmtt
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        222 minutes ago

        This reminds me of the Q&A section on Amazon product pages where someone will answer a question stating that they don’t know because they didn’t buy the item.

      • Flamekebab
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        I wouldn’t really call it a “trap”. If you’re buying a console when it’s new at full price, sure, you’re being taken for a ride, but give it a couple of years for stuff to be cheaper and it can work out reasonably well.

        I used to be a major PC gamer but eventually the cost/benefit calculation went completely off the rails.

        That said, I’ve not upgraded to the current console generation because I’m still waiting on something to justify it.

  • @Peffse
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    1910 hours ago

    I thought I was losing my mind after seeing all the PS5 Pro praise. Glad to see that the numbers matched what my expectations were.

    I do wonder if Sony bought out some influencers or something, because it was oddly counterintuitive amounts of praise.

    • @[email protected]
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      188 hours ago

      The praise came from the people who have jobs being pixel peepers, not people who actually enjoy playing games.

      From a perspective of it looking slightly better when you pause a game, take a screenshot, and enlarge it so you can then discuss about the fruity bokeh or whatever the shit, the PS5 Pro is much improved.

      For everyone who just plays games on it, it’s essentially unnoticeable.

      (This applies a lot to PC gaming stuff as well, but it looks like nVidia stepped on their uh, leather coat, so hard with the 5000 series that not even the pixeleyist peepers had much positive to say.)

      • @Peffse
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        13 hours ago

        There was one publication that I was subscribed to, which I cannot recall the name of now, that just heaped article after article about how great the PS5 Pro was, and how it was revolutionizing gaming, how much better it was than the PS5, and how it’s sold out everywhere and the best console ever created. Every single game that had a single digit framerate improvement was a full article about how awesome the Pro was.

        Some hyperbole on my part, of course, but I did get sick of them praising the PS5 Pro, and the comments section following lock-step, so I ditched it. I just couldn’t understand the dissonance in the communities, especially since neither produced numbers to back up claims.

        I bet if I dug around my archived bookmark backups I could find it, and I bet they are still singing praises about the thing.

  • @B0NK3RS
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    1510 hours ago

    I wonder why…

    £800 for a console (£700 for digital) is actually ridiculous.

      • DacoTaco
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        118 hours ago

        Normally, id agree. But with pc parts prices being what they are… Its still a “bargin”. I hate to use the word bargin here, because the pricing of both pc and consoles is insane

        • @SolidShake
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          87 hours ago

          You’re not wrong. A 4070ti or a new 5000 series Nvidia costs twice as much as a PS5 pro alone. And not many PCs can have Ray tracing at 60fps on 4k for under $500

        • @[email protected]
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          15 hours ago

          I understand that not everyone has the expertise, but for 800$ you can put together a very capable system that will beat the PS5 easily. It will probably include some used parts. You don’t need a 4070 in there, not even remotely close.

          But yes, obviously the prices have gone up quite a bit over the last years.

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            Not really. To have games in 4k and 30fps in modern games you need a gpu that is more than half the budget. And you dont even have a cpu, ram, mobo or even case.
            Dont get me wrong btw, i will always pick pc because i do way way more than just gaming, but recommending pc for gaming is becoming really hard

            • @[email protected]
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              24 hours ago

              Unless I misunderstood something, the PS5 isn’t “true 4k”, but uses upscaling just like any semi-modern GPU can do as well (DLSS and FSR I think is the AMD version). That changes that equation quite a bit.

              I would argue that reocmmending a PC over a (new) console has gotten easier, especially for someone on a budget. Because you can actually get an incredibly competent machine these days (used of course). Even if you decide to pay more to get a better PC, you then have access to the vast PC library with all the bundles, frequent and often deep sales, giveaways, … The cost of the console isn’t just the console, but also what you can play on it and what it costs, and this aspect has improved massively on PC in recent years (and was already pretty good before then).

              Of course, if you’re interested in exlusives or first-party titles (like nintendo), or you generally play mostly AAA games, the console might just be the better or only option, but you better bring the wallet for the whole journey.

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    Queue a similar exchange programme like it happened last gen when the same sales pattern emerged.