• @[email protected]
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    7 hours ago

    More eu nations are going to need their own arsenal. If you don’t have your own, you are at risk. Sad but true.

    • poVoqM
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      106 hours ago

      The French have more than enough, there just needs to be a proper agreement at EU level to share more responsibility (and costs).

  • Jolly Platypus
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    178 hours ago

    Good. The EU needs to start stockpiling nukes. The US is now a hostile foreign power.

  • @[email protected]
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    3811 hours ago

    Looks like the arms race with nukes are back on the table… Ugh, whatever it takes to keep Europe safe I guess… I’d rather not have this, but unfortunately it seems like the 180 turn by the US and Russia’s agression is forcing Europe to do this.

    • @[email protected]
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      10 hours ago

      I’d rather have french Nukes from Macron than US Nukes from Putin-Loving Trump in Germany

    • Skua
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      910 hours ago

      I’m not sure this really qualifies as an arms race. France doesn’t have an arsenal like America or Russia, and this plan doesn’t involve expanding the French arsenal or putting nukes anywhere that there aren’t already nukes

      • @skepller
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        68 hours ago

        I wouldn’t call it an arms race too, although, if France’s nukes are being spread out, it would make sense to expand their arsenal as well.

        • Ziggurat
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          it would make sense to expand their arsenal as well.

          A quick search tells me that a french submarine contains 16 M51 missiles, and each of these missiles can contain up to 10 warhead witha power or 300 kt. Such a warhead SHot over New York City would killl over one million people, break the windows up to Newark airport.

          let’s assume a Sub empty it’s load, and 80% of the warhead are intercepted by air-defence. It’s enough to wipe 32 cities/strategical sites from the map. I don’t see how a country even as big as Russia/China/US won’t fully collapse from that much damage.

          So even a small actor as France has enough nuke to bring back a country in middle-age. It’s indeed making sense to have some Nuke abroad as it increases the number of potential targets in case of war. To my understanding France has been offering to share nuke with Germany for decades

          • @CheeseNoodle
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            110 minutes ago

            80% is also suuuuper optimistic, especially if there are dummy munitions in the mix.

            • Ziggurat
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              I have no idea of the actual number (and the one who do, aren’t bragging about-it), but I was talking about a 80% loss rate rather than a 80% pass rate.

  • @[email protected]
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    1510 hours ago

    Jet fighters could be posted to Germany as deterrent as Emmanuel Macron

    Cool, then the we can drop the Tornados and tell the Americans to GTFO when we built back our Military