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It’s treason then
4 years ago…
ETA: guess I have to remind people that 4 years ago was when January 6th happened…
Huh?
It’s fine he meant to gaslight the subject with an incomplete argument anyone can fill their own blanks into. The equivalent of ragebait posts. It’s our duty to not feed the trolls!
I think they’re saying he was clearly already treasonous four years ago because of Jan 6. That’s me admittedly filling in their vague comment though.
Yes, that’s exactly what I was talking about.
Oh yeah, that makes the most sense now that you say it.
I’ll make shit up. He was talking about how 4 years ago the president should have been impeached for this same treasonous behavior.
4 years ago was when January 6th happened…
Ya I see it now. Youll find plenty of rhetoric that 4 years ago was the day they stole the election. It gets confusing, I think he could have been more clear.
4 years ago was when January 6th happened…
Release it anyway. Most Americans support that. Just say some bullshit like it wasn’t labeled correctly and got sent to a different warehouse and Trump will forget the next time a shiny thing catches his attention.
We don’t say shit we just do. Tanks suddenly gone missing, someone takes a pic of them in Ukraine. Like a year before the entire “oh no should we send tanks, what if Russia would be mad :<”. That’s why the discussions were “western tanks” because “tanks” was out of the bag like 4 months after the war started.
My favorite is when they parked “Mig replacement parts” in a border forest. Miraculously, they were found by the Ukrainians and reassembled into complete jets.
Just say that you last saw it with some Ukrainian chap near the border and now you can’t find it.
I mean the US already sent too much to Ukraine. European members can hardly add much, UK sent bascially all of their SPGs to Ukraine for example. 6 months ago, Ukraine used 15% of US ATACMS stockpile. US six months ago only had 2,000 ATACMS left. Iskander production last year was around 360 (which outpaced use) and Russia has plans to produce 750 this year. US and their European allies are having their stockpiles bled dry and why send more for a country that clearly ain’t going to make it? As far as I can tell, most Russian units aren’t even in Ukraine and I suspect late April is going to be interesting considering I see signs of a possible Re-Invasion of Ukraine but take that with a grain of salt.
Pffftft get bent. Providing military gear to Ukraine that was destined to be disposed of for reaching its end of life by sitting on a shelf doesn’t really cost the US much, other than on an accounting ledger. It’s either on the balance sheet as “N number of ATACMS valued at $X were disposed of for $Z (cost of disposal)” or “N number of ATACMS valued at $X were provided to Ukraine at a cost of $W (cost of shipping)”. Which end up being roughly the same.
Regardless the munitions are gone and off the books. Both outcomes mean US arms producers get to make more missiles — which is money spent within the US on US jobs.
So, who gives a shit? Let Ukraine defend themselves while Russia expends money and soldiers. Ya Muppet.
Disposed? They were going to be refurbished as ATACMS isn’t being produced anymore since 2007. For now, current stockpile are needed for refurbishments until its successor, PrSM can actually get out in actual numbers which takes time and is unlikely to outpace Russian Iskander production which has already at least 7 months ago, almost reached peak ATACMS production and probably has by now if not surpassed.
But because of the US sending them into Ukraine, they don’t have these ATACMS that would be very useful to equip NATO or US forces in Europe with at least until PrSM becomes available in large numbers and knowing US production tendencies, will be quite some years away.
(Doubt the ATACMS problem is as bad as the Stinger problem, they had to get retired employees whom are in their 70s to teach new employees because some smart person decided to cancel stinger production, retire the Stinger and give them to the national guard til Ukraine).
It’s going to be the modern day missile gap.
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Think of it however you want, someone else here stated that freezing it is just means that all that aid goes into Trump’s pockets instead which is certainly a good argument for unfreezing this aid and sending it into Ukraine anyways even if it won’t achieve much in the end.
Personally I think it is smarter if Europe keeps their stockpiles in country and prepare for a future war with Russia and the American aid gets sent to NATO allies instead.
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Slava Ukraini
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Why
They’re a troll and/or chud.
Figured, that’s why I didn’t put more then one words worth of effort in 🤣
I think we should be using more money to fix problems inside the states first rather than outside
Sure, but the politicians freezing aid are just going to pocket the money. It definitely isn’t going to things like education, poverty, infrastructure
Yeah. I wish things weren’t the way they currently are
1939 wants its ideas back
