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I’ve been pretty down on modern Star Trek, but Lower Decks really shines out because IMO it’s being made by people who clearly love Star Trek.
You can’t forget Strange New Worlds.
I’ve been a bit wobbly on Strange New Worlds. It’s had some rough episodes, though overall I’m liking it and it’s had some stellar episodes as well. Not as consistently good as Lower Decks, though.
All of Trek has had rough episodes, so I can’t really hold it against Strange New Worlds. They do stand out more with only 10 episodes per season though
Pike breaks the prime directive with no consequences
so it’s star trek
So did Kirk several times. Earlier Starfleet, different galactic political landscape, different rules.
Modern trek wonderful, everything after tng is better than the first two series.
Heh, we have different cutoffs for “modern Star Trek.” My dividing line is the JJ Abrams movie.
I love the main casting (bones Kirk and spock) of the jjverse but otherwise it’s a generic action movie.
Fuck that shit
Low-er decks! Low-er decks!
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I enjoy this image immensely.
Wait till you read The Diamond Age.
Cannon
Boom.
Ok cannon
That’s like the perfect frame of Mariner. Wow.
I’ve never personally understood why people get so obsessed with which works of fiction are more real. It’s just a silly thing to worry about.
It adds to the cohesive narrative which can make the overall story telling experience better. When works are considered canon, that’s usually an indicator that the overall franchise narrative is being cared for and thought of.
It can also mean that some aspects of one show can show up in another or vice versa. It’s very cool to see a character you really like. Show up in another medium.
I fully agree, but I also think that there’s too much focus these days on official canon. Copyright might mean that only one big giant corporation is allowed to make stories “set” in a particular universe, but that shouldn’t mean that fans can’t decide for themselves “nope, that was lame, I reject that particular bit.” And if enough fans share that opinion the big giant corporation might want to listen to them.
Would love if multiple authors could create a shared open IP, where anyone can create commercial works derived from it (as long as they dont copy and re-publish the work itself), without needing permission from an IP holder for every work. And canon and fanon is the same thing, if an author writes a plot, that work would gets rejected or included by other authors opinion of it.
1632 series did kindof that, I think, in that they publish fan-fiction and refer to it in main stories. But thats just through one publisher. And did the fan-authors get royalties for that book sale? Idk.
Anarchists are anti canon
For your second point, you can do that without worrying about canon. In fact it’s easier if you don’t.
For the first one, that can be interesting for a single coherent work with a single writer or team of writers that planned out at least an outline of a story beforehand, but there are rarely questions about canon for those kinds of stories. For something worked on for over half a century by hundreds if not thousands of people many of whom have very different visions for what it should all be about, in my experience it just leads to people getting mad at each other based on which of those visions they like more, and lots of self-contradictory nonsense crammed into the story to try and make it all work. That is just my opinion though. You are free to like different things than I do.
I’m mentally ill and tbh I cannot do non canon. I want the whole picture as painted, not with sticky notes everywhere.
Except Starbucks dad was a cylon, it’s the only way it all makes sense.
Fair.
I honestly wasn’t thinking I’d see my username corrupted, but I love the meme!
Here’s hoping we get a m’ress appearance on Strange New worlds then.
M’Ress and T’Ana’s fur coloration is so similar… I want an Easter Egg where we just see the Libido Post in M’Ress’s quarters… and it’s the same one.
Me too.
Yeah TAS canonicity confirmed lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
When did they animate a cannon?
Jim Kirk had one on each side of his torso.
No, that was spillover when his girdle started to fail
Canon to the left of them, canon to the right of them!
…Canon in front of them contradicted and blundered.
…Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right…
Ah, someone who understands.
Well, a subspace anomaly turned the universe into a musical, who’s to say another one in a parallel universe didn’t turn everyone into cartoons?
Exquisite work!
I want the image trace you did of Mariner’s head, it’s so perfect
Unapologetic “Nutrek sux” comment
*shrugs and goes back 427th rewatch of TNG/DS9/VOY in chronological order
Chronological in the show or by air-date?
Also Lower Decks is great.
Air-by messes up an episode or three. I’d have to find my list.
And no, in all seriousness I watch all of it. LD is a fine parody/comedy, and I can enjoy it as a Trek show without yelling at the screen or my eyes rolling out of my head. I care not who says it is or is not canon, no more than I would ever tell anyone else how any fiction may exist in someone else’s mind.
Reality, on the other hand… wew lads there’s a lot of people I want to smash reality into their heads through their ears, errr, but that’s not relevant to this thread or sub…
“I care not who says it is or is not canon, no more than I would ever tell anyone else how any fiction may exist in someone else’s mind.”
Very nicely put. Thank you.
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