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    Iirc the meaning was more “take care of your shit” than the modern “stop paying attention to me”

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      TIL I’m the only person who understood the figurative meaning of that phrase to derive from the literal meaning. Do people also only mean “Get your own house in order,” as a rejection of criticism and not as advice for the other person to get their shit together? To me if I was only meaning to dismiss someone I would use other wording like “You’re one to talk,” or “No one asked you.” Are people only hearing “fuck off” and not the advice?

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        I would not interpret it that way. Also, even just looking at its literal meaning, I don’t think it’s saying that the other person needs to get their shit together, as that would imply they don’t have their shit together, which is something that it doesn’t explicitly state and rarely implies in practice. The only implication I hear from it is “be involved in things that affect you [and this doesn’t affect you]”

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        Is get your own house in order a common phrase? I can’t say I’ve ever heard that one before

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      I want the next penny to say “get your shit together this isn’t IHOP”

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      Yeah, pretty sure it was literally business business. All the founding fathers were land owning businessmen.

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    In god we trust was added because of McCarthyism. It doesn’t belong there and is a facist unconstitutional addition

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      In God We Trust actually has a much longer history than that.

      In the 1950s, though, it replaced E Pluribus Unum (‘From many, one’) as our official motto, whereas previously, “In God We Trust” had intermittently shown up on currency since the late 19th century, but had no official status.

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      The phrase has a complex history.

      Francis Scott Key’s poem, The Defense of Fort McHenry (which would be adapted as the Star Spangled Banner and the National Anthem, contains the following line in the fourth verse:

      And this be our motto: “In God is our trust.”

      And that didn’t officially become the national anthem until 1931, but it was well established as the unofficial anthem: Both the Army and the Navy adopted it for a lot of the ceremonial functions before 1900, Woodrow Wilson ordered it performed at certain events in 1916.

      The first instance of “In God We Trust” on American money was during the civil war, when it became a Union motto for the righteous cause of crushing Confederate slavers.

      The wave of McCarthyism did elevate the phrase to its current status (official motto, printed on all currency), but that was building on something that was already there, not manufacturing religious fervor out of thin air.

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      He was a genius but if he was here today, the government would fuck him up his righteous a

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    man letting this stuff and the under god thing become mandatory in the 50’s is so effing annoying and needs to be reveresed.

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    In god the ability of a well reasoned adult we trust. Mind your business.

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      … Ben Franklin?

      He was the most ‘modern’ and forward-thinking of all the Founding Fathers.

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        Nah, he was cool but Thomas Paine easily beats him on that front.

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          Paine is a major figure, but not traditionally considered one of the ‘big seven’ Founding Fathers.

          I agree, Paine is based, though.