My favorite one is when our utility company asks me to donate to help pay for people’s utilities like they aren’t raking in record amount of cash.
Why don’t you help by lowering the prices and being more reasonable? How do I even now you’re actually using the money I donate for people’s bills? That’s a crazy donation request.
Come on now, be reasonable. Lowering the prices would mean they can’t buy their 5th mansion. Just stop being selfish and give them a little more money.
First, please don’t link to Reddit…
Many Of The Largest Charities In America Are Giant Money Making Scams
http://thetruthwins.com/archives/many-of-the-largest-charities-in-america-are-giant-money-making-scamsOr just…donate the perfectly good food they constantly throw out into the cadged dumpsters designed to keep homeless people out… Litteraly would cost them nothing…
“But if we feed them then those broke homeless people won’t come in and spend their (nonexistent) money on our food!” -upper management
And there in lies the real problem, they are more scared of their quarterly growth reports and some imaginary ‘lawsuit’ from homeless people (which I believe in most places you can’t sue over donated food) than they care about keeping people alive.
As much as I hate Kroger, Fred Meyer’s donates a LOT of food. Not sure about other stores but I remember a story saying they were one of the top contributors for perishables.
Remember kids, they also get to use the money they guilted off of you to reduce their tax liability because they get credit for donating your money!
Edit: I’ll be dammed looks like I was wrong. Here is an article on why you might not want to donate anyway. I stand corrected.
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I used to work for a retail chain many years ago and I do not think this is true for everywhere.
When we were asking for donations it was tracked and if our location didn’t get enough donations our store manager would get talked to by his district manager. I don’t know exactly what happened to the money once it was donated, but I don’t think they would have been so adamant about getting the donations if they didn’t make anything from it.
This was like 20 years ago though, maybe its different now.
Yeah unfortunately the time and place it happened can change the legalities tremendously, but in general right now it appears that at least the type mentioned in the OP is in fact a donation from the customer directly to the charity. The business who is acting as a middleman will not have the donation affect their books, and the customer can keep these receipts so they can claim the donation on their own taxes.
Even if you don’t itemize your deductions, you can still claim up to 300$ in donations.
Edit: Apparently this was a temporary thing with the CARES act for 2020 and 2021 and is no longer active.
does not get any benefitI’d say free PR is still a benefit. A bullshitter’s benefit
They do not, at least in the US.
It depends on exactly what the store is doing.
If the store is representing the extra charge as a donation to a specific charity, generally, the customer can deduct that.
If it’s far more vague, like, “Give $10 to help poor kids in Africa” the ultimate destination for the funds could be the company’s own ledgers, which it would then use for its own charitable activities and collect the tax deduction, as long as they “help poor kids in Africa.”
And some stores are just lying. CVS, for instance, was sued as part of a class action suit when, after the company pledges $10 million to the American Diabetes Association, then collected money from customers to fund that pledge.
Yep, found the case you referred to…
FACTS
- From November 2, 2021, through November 27, 2021, CVS conducted a campaign (the “Campaign”) in which, prior to the completion of transactions at its nearly ten thousand stores in the 50 States and the District of Columbia, customers were asked on the checkout screen if they wished, as part of the checkout process, to make a donation, above and beyond the price of their purchase, to the American Diabetes Association (“ADA”).
- The only term of the Campaign that CVS provided to customers was a representation on the checkout screen that the customer could make a donation to the ADA (a “Campaign Donation”) by tapping one of several boxes on the checkout screen, each of which contained a preselected amount, or that the customer could tap a box stating “no” with respect to making a Campaign Donation (the “Checkout Message”).
- The Checkout Message represented that CVS was merely collecting Campaign Donations and forwarding them to the ADA.
- The Checkout Message was a material element of the Campaign.
- CVS intended that customers would rely upon the Checkout Message in deciding whether to make a Campaign Donation.
- Customers had no reason to believe that the Checkout Message was anything but true and accurate.
- CVS did not merely collect customers’ Campaign Donations and forward them to the ADA, but, instead, counted Campaign Donations toward the satisfaction of a legally binding obligation, which CVS had made to the ADA, to donate $10 million to the ADA during the threeyear period of 2021 through 2023 (the “CVS Obligation”).
- CVS necessarily used Campaign Donations to reimburse itself, or pay down its debt, with respect to the CVS Obligation. 2 Case 1:22-cv-03116-RPK-RML Document 1 Filed 05/26/22 Page 2 of 26 PageID #: 2
- CVS’s treatment of, and benefit from, Campaign Donations were materially different than the false, deceptive, and misleading representation that CVS had given to its customers, which was that CVS was merely collecting Campaign Donations and forwarding them to the ADA.
- On or about November 15, 2021, McCabe made a Campaign Donation at the CVS store located at 1933 Victory Boulevard, Staten Island, New York 10314.
Those donations you make can help them deduct from taxes, right?
Yes, which is why you should donate yourself if you are inclined to do so.
Yeah if it is a person asking me to donate on behalf of a company I’m like “why would I let this company take all the credit?” That usually ends the conversation as they impersonate an NPC immediately having to go into ‘think mode’.
No, but you should still donate yourself. It allows you to focus on charities that you care the most about and which you can research as having the greatest potential positive impact.
If you give $1 to Grocery Store to donate to Cause, what happens is Grocery Store gains $1 of taxable revenue, then they remove that $1 of taxable revenue with the deduction. All the deductions do is make it so that Grocery Store neither gains nor loses money from the forwarded donations. They simply aren’t paying taxes on the money you gave them to donate.
The rules for this are good.
Here me out before accusing me of being a billionaire toady.
Not really, at least not in the US. Charitable contributions are a deduction from taxable income, not a credit, so it is still a net financial loss to donate.
Where the benefit comes is the PR and power over the organization they donate to and its sphere of influence.
It is a net loss if you donate your own money, in this situation Company isn’t donating from its own revenue. It is donating customers money.
If I donated 1000$ and claimed tax deductible it would be a net loss. But if I asked everyone for donations, raised 1000$, donated that and claimed tax deductible that wouldn’t be a net loss.
I think that’s a myth as it isn’t income it goes into a separate fund to transfer 1:1.
Even if it is revenue, it is still a net loss. All it does is reduce taxable income, which is still makes the donation a net loss. For anyone not aware, the current federal US corporate income tax rate is 21%. So if a company gives 100 dollars to charity, they only save 21 dollars in taxes, so they are still down roughly 79 dollars, depending on the state taxes of where they are incorporated.
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What the hell happened here
When do we get undelete Lemmy?
Those charities have huge overhead. Very little money goes to the actual cause.
There are sites to check how much actually goes out. Check before you donate.
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Shell’s audacity too…
And redirecting you attention on to the “offsets” scam too.
Ever wonder why climate change is such a problem if 1.5 pence per liter petroleum burnt can undo the damage? Spoiler: it can’t. You can’t sequester CO² for that cheap, and CO² isn’t the only issue. “Offsets” are not certified by any trustworthy third party, and companies intentionally don’t pry too much, so they can say “Oh sorry, didn’t know” if anyone investigates and discovers they did squat-all.
I hate when any company I’m buying something from does this.
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Don’t tip on those things. The company supplying those things are getting the cut. And it’s mandatory. They are an office space scam.
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I just say no
And I will never ever give these fools my actual phone number for discounts. Just use any area code w/ 867-5309 to get around this.
Jenny Jenny, who can I turn to? You give me something I can hold on to. I know you think I’m like the others before who saw your name and number on the wall
That’s memorial hospital at Gulfport. Source: high kid called the number
It’s still fine.
Some big international store in europe is asking to buy food from them for full price and donate it to food bank. Fuckin hilarious for making profit on charity.
I hate these donate screens because I have no idea where the donation actually goes and i don’t want to have to do a ton of research at the grocery checkout about whether its a good charity.
I have never seen a donation bin/screen/what have you that didn’t say what charity it was for.
If a business is collecting donations and then not giving them to the charities in question, that’s just fraud.
Yeah but just because they name the charity doesn’t mean its a good charity. Some charities just aren’t good ones to donate to and you’re basically just throwing money down a well when you do donate to them.
PSA: most Americans can get up to $300 deducted from their annual taxes through donations.
Unfortunately that was only for 2020 and 2021. Normally donations go under itemized deduction, and unless your total itemized is greater than standard deduction, it probably won’t directly benefit your taxes.
It’s so they can get a tax write off for your donation.
This is a lie that I had hoped to leave behind on Reddit but lo and behold it’s so pervasive that it transcends social circles.
Repeat after me: that is not how taxes work.
They do not get any monetary benefit from your donations, save for arguably good publicity. They do not claim your donations in their taxes. They do not get extra write offs on their taxes.
Those donations are yours and you could claim them on your taxes, if you were so inclined.
This. The icing on the cake is that this tax write-off affects the amount of tax dollars available for public assistance in the first place. If you want to help the poor, consider volunteering your time or donating to a legitimate charity.
