• @dustojnikhummer
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              61 year ago

              You can be a car guy/car fan and still recognize that cars don’t belong into city centers and that trains are objectively better for mass transit. Both should exist.

              • @[email protected]
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                31 year ago

                Yes. We need to adopt this additute if we want to transition away from our current system. Like your car but hate the traffic? More public transit will help. Don’t like your car and hate the traffic? More public transit will help. Doesn’t even need to be 100% trains at first. Busses work as an alternative to start if implelemnted properly, the main things we need to demand are 1. More routes, 2. Lower wait times. And 3. 24/7(or as close to it as possible) availability.

                • @dustojnikhummer
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                  11 year ago

                  Yep. We don’t need to go full fuckcars, we just need to irritate drivers just a bit enough to get them onto a bus, tram or a train. Cars belong in cities, just not in city centers.

      • @WhatsHerBucket
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        51 year ago

        They’ll just block the other lane while they do it lol

  • @dustojnikhummer
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    491 year ago

    Trust me bro, just one more lane

    because trains are too expensive or something

    • @[email protected]
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      “AMErIcA iS TOo bIg!”

      “HaRDwoRkINg AmERIcANs!”

      “ThE goVeRNmENt!”

      Random nonsense copium bullshit go!

      • @dustojnikhummer
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        21 year ago

        Meanwhile who is building interstates? Meanwhile the i95 bridge will be open in just a few weeks…

    • @Mirshe
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      41 year ago

      Trains are ANTIQUATED, bro. Cars are the future, you can’t be a rugged individual on a TRAIN.

  • beaubbe
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    361 year ago

    What is crazy is that with 1 passenger per car, that is not that many people. Like not even 50. You could all fit in a single bus

    • @Airazz
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      101 year ago

      Or motorcycles/bicycles, if you really want personal mode of transport.

      • @greo
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        -11 year ago

        Please no motorcycles they are annoying and loud as fuck

        • @scutiger
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          61 year ago

          They don’t have to be

          • Overzeetop
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            And yet they always are. Not to mention dangerous (statistically, per user-mile).

            Also, please don’t argue with me on that last point. Instead, argue how safe they are with a doctor or nurse at your local emergency room. They will, I’m certain, agree with you.

    • @[email protected]
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      51 year ago

      If those 50 people are all going to same places than the bus goes. At the same time.

      A coworker was taking the bus to get home. 2 hours due to two line changes where they can wait up to 30 minutes for the next bus. I started giving him a ride home when I could.

      5 minutes out of my way and cut his commute down to 20 minutes. From 2 hours. That’s 120 minutes down to 20 minutes. With just that extra hour of sleep he’s much happier.

      An extra hour and a half of each day wasted on public transportation.

      • @lynnyOP
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        71 year ago

        In most countries with public transport you only have to wait 10-15 minutes for the next bus on that line.

        • @Gecko
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          11 year ago

          10-15 minutes? For me it’s like 5-8 :>

      • @gundog48
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        51 year ago

        Public transport is great in cities, but as soon as things get more sparsely populated, you get diminishing returns. Everything takes longer, runs infrequently, and still barely gets you close.

        But then if they run more frequently, they’d be empty.

        Yet, where I live, they keep introducing hostile rules, new houses can only have one parking space, at a time where kids are having to live with their parents for longer, so their mobility, job opportunities, etc are really hampered. It would be one thing if there was decent public transport infrastructure, but there’s literally nothing, just people becoming ‘stuck’ because those who make the rules often don’t think about areas as a whole.

        • @ghariksforge
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          61 year ago

          Most people live in cities. The fraction of rural population is small and getting less.

          • The Pantser
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            21 year ago

            Not as true as it used to be. Many companies are still allowing working from home. The rural areas around me have seen a huge influx of new construction since you can live anywhere and work for many jobs. Both myself and wife work from home and have considered moving out of the city but won’t until the kids are done with school.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 year ago

        30 mins is pretty jarring even for U.S. standard. Especially during commute time.

        In other countries I have been to most buses take at most 15 mins to come. Trains typically take around 5 mins, and much more frequent during rush hour (around 2 to 1 mins per train).

        Another problem with U.S. transportation system is the poor investment on train (somehow people are into those “Hyperloop” when a normal subway system has been demonstrated time and time again to already be way more efficient than car). For buses, its speed is limited by traffic, so it is unlikely for bus to be faster than cars.

        Another thing I would like to point out is that time is not “wasted” on transport, you can read, browse social media, news, watch videos, things you cannot do in a car. And you can enjoy music with a much better sound system (aka head phones), which is not safe in a car.

    • The Pantser
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      -101 year ago

      Traffic jams would be a whole lot less damaging if they were all electric. Just sitting there with the AC and radio on is a whole lot less emissions compared to fossil fuels.

      • izzent
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        431 year ago

        I prefer a rock solid public transport system, and plenty of safe walking areas and no-car zones. EVs help minimally in the grand scheme, since they are costly to produce, especially the batteries.

        • @hydro033
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          61 year ago

          Yea, that only works for cities. America will still need tons of cars for everywhere that isn’t a city. It’s a very low density country, all things considered.

          • Captain Minnette
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            21 year ago

            There’s large swathes of territory nearly as dense as parts of Europe with incredible public transit. Look at the density of Spain and overlay it on top of the northeast US, then compare the public transit.

            • @hydro033
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              11 year ago

              Yea, but the northeast, especially major cities like NYC, Boston, and Philly, does have better public transit than a lot of the US. I know it still sucks overall (and don’t get me going about the costs), but a lot of the infrastructure was built during the car boom. People do like cars, and they make sense for most of America given how much sprawl we have.

              • Captain Minnette
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                11 year ago

                Local transit of those cities is pretty good, I’d agree. But the lack of intercity transit, like high speed rail, is such a shame.

        • @mack7400
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          51 year ago

          But then you lose your fReEdOm, and are beholden to another driver’s whims! Creep to the left or right side of the lane in your traffic jam? Forget it! All you can do is read, or play a game, or gaze forlornly at the liberated masterminds as you zip past in your socialist train!

        • @Thurkeau
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          31 year ago

          Good luck with that, though. If this is America, and I think it is, we find ways of making a good public transit system suck. I also think we need to take a hard look at how our towns and cities are desined as well, and make them to where they’re optimized to be able to drive into a central location then bicycle or hoof it to whrever you wanted to go within a couple miles.

        • The Pantser
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          01 year ago

          Which won’t happen especially in car first cities. I am in Michigan, it’s the home of the automobile and everything is built around it. To accommodate a good mass transit they would need to demolish large portions of the cities to install rail lines because busses are a lack luster bandage. Even with cities with great bus lines like Lansing or Ann Arbor it still can take hours for a trip across the city when a car gets you there and back in minutes. Business will also need to accommodate and give longer time off for doctors appointments. My wife rides the bus often in Lansing and if she has a appointment that is only a 10min car ride she is gone for 3 hours on the bus.

          • Corhen
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            61 year ago

            To accommodate a good mass transit they would need to demolish large portions of the cities to install rail lines because busses are a lack luster bandage.

            I mean, we did that for cars, and it only made things worse

            example BEFORE and AFTER

          • @stylishboar
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            31 year ago

            To accommodate a good mass transit they would need to demolish large portions of the cities to install rail lines

            I don’t think this is true, at least not initially. There are cheaper alternatives, such as BRTs (dedicated bus lanes) and updating zoning to encourage destinations to develop closer. Sure, the US is obviously mostly car-centric today, but the cynical all-or-nothing mindset is hindering cities’ ability to even begin to make progress.

      • @seedbrage
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        91 year ago

        That’s true, but electric cars won’t fix the core issue of car dependency and massive traffic jams

      • @possiblylinux127
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        61 year ago

        The two issues I have with current EVs is you can’t work on them and they don’t last as long as gas vehicles.

        I have a old suburu and it still runs fine

        • Corhen
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          81 year ago

          Its also worth remembering there is a lot less maintenance to do on an EV. No oil to change, lubes to replace, belts that break…

          Besides the batteries, an EV car should last longer than a gas car.

            • Corhen
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              61 year ago

              DRM… which makes you need to replace belts, and oil?

              I didn’t say they were easier to work on, just lower maintenance. On my gas car i need to change the oil ever 6 months. You dont need to do that with an EV.

              • @possiblylinux127
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                21 year ago

                I’m mostly referring to the “smart” features. Modern EVs are a not designed to be taken apart and understood

            • @hark
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              Gas-powered cars can be and will be (if they aren’t already) subject to just as much DRM. Modern gas-powered cars have plenty of computers to apply DRM to. The only reason EVs may have more DRM currently is because they were developed from a tech company perspective which has more experience in software to implement that DRM. Running off a battery instead of gas doesn’t make a car inherently more DRM-able.

          • @Negromungusschlong
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            They have the same components except the engine, but they weigh more and the batteries dont last as long as a well maintained engine. EV cars should not last as long.

            • Corhen
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              The main wear points on a car are all related to the engine and powertrain (pistons, transmission, timing belt). EV Tires will go more quickly, due to the increased vehicle weight. I’m not sure how that will impact bushings.

              Outside of those, I agree an EV is going to wear similarly.

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              They have the same components except the engine

              • Transmission (usually larger and more expensive than the engine)
              • Exhaust, muffler and catalytic converter
              • Gas tank, fuel pump and vapor hose
              • Ignition coil(s), spark plugs, oil pump, intake and exhaust manifolds and fuel injectors
              • Fucking belts
              • CV joints, differentials and transfer case (I think)
  • klieg2323
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    221 year ago

    I find it more infuriating that there is usually no other option than traffic. If only there was a long distance mode of transit that wasn’t prone to frequent traffic and collision

    • @lynnyOP
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      Just wait until you realize there used to be a train to every town, including every single small town.

      We had the passenger train networks, it was what built the country, but now it is gone.

    • Overzeetop
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      If only there was a long distance mode of transit that wasn’t prone to frequent traffic and collision

      If you’re in the US, even trains won’t help. De/under-regulation means there are over a thousand collisions and/or rail failures every year. Even if passenger trains were given priority, the lax safety and maintenance standards allowed on freight lines would cause monumental delays.

  • @[email protected]
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    211 year ago

    You may as well declare that your permanent address. It’s where you live now. May as well try and find happiness where you are.

    You’ll meet friends there, settle in, maybe get married and have some kids, grow old and retire to the back seat, having lived a rich and full life.

    In a few generations, the fact that the cars can move will only be a children’s story, and eventually forgotten altogether.

  • @cowmouse
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    161 year ago

    Public transport for the win :D

    • @Thurkeau
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      31 year ago

      At least until we find a way to f* it up–again.

  • @Tylith
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    161 year ago

    One more lane would fix this!

    • Drusas
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      I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic, but research shows that adding an extra lane does not typically reduce this kind of traffic. It just makes it wider.

  • @danc4498
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    141 year ago

    Did you stop there and cause a traffic jam to get this beautiful picture?

  • @ThaijsClan
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    131 year ago

    Been there before. We recently had a semi truck tip and spill thousands of frozen French fries across all lanes of the highway. They closed it completely down for hours. People were literally reversing on the highway to back up to the nearest exit. It was terrible

    • WHYAREWEALLCAPS
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      See, as much as I hate Texas and especially TXDOT, I will give it props for it’s access roads that run alongside the interstates. Stuff gets too backed up, folks can just drive over the grass to the access road. It’ll back the access road up, too, but it’ll be moving, at least. Hell, out in west Texas you can see where the locals have made their own exit because the nearest one is a 10+ mile drive out of the way.

  • Lor
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    121 year ago

    [Image description: A photo of a road with two lanes. There is bumper-to-bumper traffic reaching an approxime 53 car length.]