Not joking by the way, this was made by a conservative artist
Original twitter post: https://twitter.com/GPrime85/status/1697222846030721336
It’s funny how ‘getting an abortion’ is the most atheist thing the artist could think of - I believe that’s not even forbidden in the Bible?
There’s a recipe to induce abortion in the Bible.
Not reading it is part of the book club.
I’ve been trying to find that bit and my apparently poor googling techniques are finding nothing. Do you mind sharing an article or passage? (Just got back from a vacation with some fairly religious family members who were goddamn tiring, would be nice to be able to cite this next time.)
Numbers 5:11-31. Here’s a Wikipedia Article about it.
Wild, thanks! And I appreciate the reference!
Oh, if you want more fun, read them these two verses:
Exodus 21:12:
Anyone who assaults and kills another person must be put to death.
And Exodus 21:22:
When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that she has a miscarriage but no other injury occurs, then the guilty party will be fined what the woman’s husband demands, as negotiated with the judges.
Then ask them why the punishment for killing a person is not the same as the punishment for causing a miscarriage.
After that, ask them why, if the Bible is the “inerrant” word of God, do some translations of that second verse use “miscarriage” while others say something more general like “caused a premature birth” instead? Because the meaning of that verse changes drastically depending on which way it’s translated.
At this point, you’ll probably be called a godless baby killer and uninvited from Thanksgiving dinner.
After that, ask them why, if the Bible is the “inerrant” word of God, do some translations of that second verse use “miscarriage” while others say something more general like “caused a premature birth” instead? Because the meaning of that verse changes drastically depending on which way it’s translated.
According to Google Translate, the original Hebrew for just that phrase directly translates to “and her children went out,” but with the full context of the verse it becomes “and her children are born.” Make of that what you will.
I could translate it to “and she gets a black eye,” but that doesn’t make the word itself any less reliable, only my wrong translation. I don’t know about the people you hang out with, but I’m pretty sure it’s important for Christians to understand that human translations are prone to error.
It’s problematic to try to read that verse as just meaning “born” exactly because of the context. The whole passage is about restitution in two scenarios: a pregnant woman who is injured as a bystander from two men fighting and
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suffers an unclear birth event with no additional damage
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suffers an unclear birth event with additional damage.
Breaking it down that way, it seems apparent to me that the birth event must mean a miscarriage. If two men fight and that causes a woman to go into labor, but her child is safely delivered, what restitution would be owed? What harm has actually been caused? That actually eliminates scenario 1. The only way the whole passage makes any sense for the father to be owed payment is to see what property he has been deprived of- a potential child, or a potential child and his wife. And this just helps to reinforce the point: the punishment for causing the death of a person is not the same as for causing a miscarriage, which means that in the Old Testament unborn fetuses we’re not equal to people
And no, American Evangelicals do not allow any room for error in translation of the Bible, because they see it as God’s direct word to man and therefore it can’t be wrong.
Guess I must be something other than an American Evangelical then. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It sounds like you found a sensible way to translate it.
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Born, or birthed? A stillborn is still birthed. See, we can play this game for millenia, others already have.
I copied what Google Translate told me. I’m no expert on matters relating to birth. That’s why I said “make of that what you will.”
However, I do know that we have a lot more technical language than they did back then, so that’s something to keep in mind.
“¿Porque no los dos?” or… Why not borth?
The people who downvoted this have no sense of humor. C’mon, “borth?”… objectively hilarious.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%205:11-31&version=NIV
It’s not really a recipe but the Bitter Waters can be viewed as an abortifacient.
Regardless of if true - that verse does show that the christian god is pro-abortion.Much appreciated!
Pro-abortion in the case of adultery or rape. Plus it is from the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament so it’s a Christian thing by inheritance from Judaism.
There is a kind of “recipe” in Numbers 5:11-31
It’s a “test for an unfaithful wife” but it’s a curse which would make a woman miscarry a child if it belonged to someone other than her husband.
Much appreciated, that’s craziness!
It really doesn’t mention abortions far as I can tell, and the people who say the Abrahamic tradition is anti-abortion is a bunch of shit as well.
Just ask them how god defines weddings in Christianity then point out Jews had weddings first.
? Sorry, what does that have to do with a recipe for abortion?
Nada, but if your goal was to piss then off…
They’re both abrahamic religions… It would make sense that God (being the same supernatural being in both religions) would have the same definition under both religions…
It would but it doesn’t. Jews by and large don’t care about homosexual marriage and even find it acceptable per God’s teachings. The only ones who don’t are the conservative Jews.
Christians on the other hand by and large care about homosexuality alot. Add to it Christians (in the states at least) like to say that they defined marriage, there’s proof that isn’t true. So if Christians didn’t invent it and were born of Judaism that would say to be that Christian belief regarding marriage is irrelevant from a “we created it” standpoint.
Tying it back to my original thought, pointing that out to Christians pisses them off.
This also works with abortion. Most Jews don’t care about it, some even go so far as to say this “a baby before birth is merely a part of the mother’s body.” Meaning it’s up to the mother what to do about her body. Up to and including termination.
What’s that supposed to prove?
What in the manufactured persecution fetish is this bullshit? Where’s the meme?
Didn’t you hear? Everything is a meme now.
This is a joke, but it’s also not (sadly)
Everything’s a joke, but nothing is. Everything’s ironic, but also everything’s serious. Jokes are meant to make light of situations, but you can’t make them about serious stuff. It’s Schrödinger’s comedy, a true definition of Metarcasm: Everything real is satire and every satire is genuine.
Jack chick with better artistic ability
My4 Yo found one of those in a bathroom and i was so pissed. And i couldnt really explain to her why she “couldn’t have the comic.” I told her it wasn’t a nice thing and NOBODY shpuld be reading it.
they legit salt them in public bathrooms, libraries and playgrounds. Predatory AF
I’ve known a few people who have been servers, who had the tip line scratched out and one of those fake $100 Bible tracts left for them.
Sometimes I really believe they litter that shit as a power play and not as a missionary thing.
as a power play and not as a missionary thing.
They don’t know there is a difference.
I would raise some hell if i was left a fake benji pushing bible bullshit.
If I owned a restaurant that would be a fucking bar 100%. Even if you left a real tip, fuck you.
Regular Bible litter, whatevs. Bad form. That fake hunski though? GTFO my restaurant and stay out.
100%
Finally a relatable comic that offers a true look into the home of your standard antifa, or uppity lib.
Why just the other day I found a baptism certificate in my daughters backpack.
Well that was three abortions and the gender reassignment is booked for next year.
Seriously though, holy fuck. How does someone come up with that nonsense and actually believe that?
There’s two types. One that is really that stupid and one that just wants to create chaos. There has been scientific research about this.
She’s probably already pregnant from her youth pastor.
Reverse baptism: when the devil tells the priest to get out of the child.
THE YOUTH PASTOR PREGNANCY ABORTIONS FOR MY LITTLE SUSIE ARE JUST FINE.
It’s all the other little whores who are enjoying sex or may die from their pregnancies that we really worry about. Those babies need to be saved for Jesus.
We’re talking about a religion based on the fact that a god made a girl pregnant without her consent. So I guess it’s part of their beliefs ?
Oh my Odin this isn’t satire? Jesus Tittyfucking Christ
Is it because he titty fucks, or…
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There was a massive uptick in tittyfuckings once those WWJD bracelets blew up.
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“You are about to be anointed… Uggh!”
Guess I have to work on in my moobs, then.
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The fact that this is not satire about conservatives ridiculous fever dreams, but a serious depiction of one, makes it really damn funny :'D
It made the comic even funnier when I saw that it was unironic
Too bad such talented hands are attached to such a stunted mind.
I’m hoping for a redemption arc.
Do hand transplants exist? I always wanted to draw well.
https://imdb.com/title/tt0584456/
Great Futurama episode about that.
I love that 'sode
Wow, I don’t even know how to process this. The dumbass conservatives are getting so confused about life they’re actually creating sarcastic comics about their way of thinking unintentionally.
This is peak irony
In case you haven’t heard of them, chick tracts have been hilariously bad since before the Internet. They are plentiful, and at least as insane as this comic here. You could dedicate a sub to them. One of my favorites was one ‘in the near future’ where non-christian children were compared to Hitler youth.
Are you talking about The Last Generation Chick Tract?
My personal favorite is Dark Dungeons.
My biggest disappointment in life was finishing a whole campaign of D&D and never getting invited into a cult to cast spells with THE REAL POWER. Maybe it had to be with 2nd edition instead of 3.5?
Wow, yes! That’s the one! I haven’t seen that comic in 20 years, thanks.
Does he believe this? Does ANYONE belive this?
To think people like these can vote
They live in an echo chamber where everyone repeats the same nonsense, so yeah, I think loads of them believe it.
For educational purposes, go watch Fox News for an hour (WARNING: more than 90 minutes can cause brain damage). I absolutely guarantee you will hear the same phrase, with the same wording, 20-200 times (sometimes they are more emphatic depending on the subject) within that hour. If you repeat it enough times, some people will take it as hard fact.
Yeah, unfortunately know about fox news
They not only can, but they will. Underlining the importance of anyone who sees this as obvious idiocy to vote as well.
Oh this isn’t an ironic post ?
The fun part is that it’s both!
Why only have one fanbase when there’s two?
Ah the Joe Rogan Avenue, that never goes wrong
I know that this is serious, but it’s so bad is good.
It has become the parody of a parody, this comic has so many layers of irony that transcends politics
Have fun changing it and sending it back.
Here you goGood job!
😳
GO GO GADGET JESUS!
Something about context
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Stolen meme, but its too good
https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/b5deef00-5e2e-4e5a-ab2f-96b4f384d713.jpeg
It’s me…
My dad is communist and this happens every day
Surprised he lived this long without food
I feel like this should go in c/therightcantmeme, or c/conservativescantmeme. I don’t remember the exact name
Wait until you find out op is posting it seriously and not ironically
I saw that a few times on reddit. It’s a trip trying to peek inside the brains of Christian fascists.
Imagine if we just leaned into their wacky right-wing conception of pro-choice and were like “yeah, our endgame is to have as many abortions as possible per capita.” Their heads would explode lol
I’m gonna get my vasectomy reversed to own the cons
Gotta look at it the other way to trigger them. A vasectomy is an automated instantaneous abortion. You’re so pro-abortion that you’re causing them every single time you have sex!
Doesn’t the Catholic church actually kinda believe that about contraceptives?
Nah, they hate contraceptives because they allow for sex to be fun without the looming danger of pregnancy. Fun is for the afterlife.
They believe… something. I know they hate contraceptives and in part because they can prevent conception. I don’t remember if it’s exactly in line with seeing them as equivalent to abortion. Either way it’s insane.
Every time you blow a load, sir!
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Well 75% of his cartoons feature blatant racism, so I’m gonna go with no.
And I don’t mean like dog whistle racism or microaggression, I mean like you’d expect to find these comics in the KKK magazine level.
