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    So it is. I liked this sentence:

    (…) he [Draghi] openly declared it “defunct” and “dead” – but warned that “the collapse of this order is not itself the threat: … the threat is what may replace it.”

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    unify on defence and foreign affairs

    Which essentially turns the EU into the USE.

    The same people who buy the politicians in the US will buy the politicians in Europe and control Europe from Brussles.

    I wouldn’t rule out that the current uncertainty was created to make the unification possible.

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      Europe has in general very strict limits and rules on donations to political parties. Political campaigns also have restrictions and limits you won’t see in the US. So buying politicians is really not that easy as it is in the US.

      And no, I don’t think that Putin and Trump rises to power were in order to make the unification of Europe possible…

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        Like the strict rules for von der Leyen to keep her Pfizer messages? EU newspapers could be so involved that we just don’t know.

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          Various newspapers across 27 countries?

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            Which newspaper keeps pushing for answers?

            It’s not just various but almost all newspapers that don’t push.

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        Also European countries can pull out of the union fairly freely, and your taxes are paid to the country and the country then pays to EU (right?).

        So you have the freedom to defund the EU if it gets corrupt. The US pays taxes first to the fed and then states. And no chance in hell a state can withdraw

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          It started differently. The federal government of the US originally only collected tariffs. US history shows what is going to come for Europe.

          The Euro can’t be stable under current conditions. A unified EU budget is the only way to stabilize the inevitably stumbling economies. It’s just a matter of time. Like other things, the citizens will be surprised but will accept the necessary reform to end the crisis. They won’t stage a rebellion when people point out that the crisis was constructed. Instead they are ready to walk into the next one for the next change.

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          That’s one of the bright sides of Brexit, the story of the EU being a prison doesn’t add up. Nevertheless Viktor Orban tries to use that card, comparing the EU to USSR. But no one is stopping him, the door is wide open. Would be much faster to manage than Brexit as there is a precedent to guide the process…

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        They have been and are regulating lobbygroups as well. Afaik corruption does happen, but it’s rare.

        Add: Just found it. Since sept 2025 we have this EU Transparency Register.

        The Transparency register is a database listing ‘interest representatives’ (organisations, associations, groups and self-employed individuals) who carry out activities to influence the EU policy and decision-making process.

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          Corruption will always happen in any country, how you fight it and prevent it is what distinguishes countries.

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            how you fight it and prevent it is what distinguishes countries.

            Exactly

            Examples Qatar scandal, Huawei scandal etc

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              Examining enemies and competitors is easy. Von der Leyen could delete her Pfizer messages. Selective enforcement is not a good sign.