Despite the U.S. campaign, Iran retains enough military capabilities to inflict considerable damage to U.S. service members and America’s allies and assets in the Middle East.

Less than 48 hours after Donald Trump told Americans the U.S. military had “beaten and completely decimated Iran,” Tehran shot down an F-15E fighter jet, setting off a high-risk scramble by U.S. forces to rescue two service members from deep inside Iranian territory. Iran also struck two Blackhawk helicopters and an attack jet that were assisting in the search and rescue effort.

The harrowing incidents have put in stark relief a growing challenge facing the president as the war enters its second month: Despite a daily bombing campaign and his triumphant wartime narrative, Iran retains enough military capabilities to inflict considerable damage to U.S. service members and America’s allies and assets in the Middle East.

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    A10 Warthog that was part of the search and rescue operation was also shot down, the pilot managing to eject over the Gulf and parachute to safety in Kuwait, and two Blackhawk helicopters also part of the same S&R operation also got shot up. A bit inconvenient for Trump who said that the US had destroyed all of Iran’s air defence capability.

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    Extra! Extra!

    Big orange pedophile lies every single time he opens his mouth!

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      Depressingly, this still seems to be news to a lot of people.

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    …Donald Trump told…

    So it was not true then.

    decimated

    In the literal sense, that would mean a 10% reduction of fighting capacity. Nothing to sneeze at, but still pretty capable of fighting defending, I would say.

    So a few airplanes were lost and/or damaged. I read some statistics of the Vietnam war that thousands of planes were lost. It’s part of being in a war, especially when you are the agressor.

    harrowing incidents

    Tell that to the Iranian civilians.

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      And an A10

      That’s a given anywhere but early 2000s Afghanistan. Even today they’ve got the stingers left over by USA.

      A10s design mission was far more dire.

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      The most competent leadership was forced out in favor of sycophants. Combined with military contractor corruption that surrounds the military budget, and it’s no wonder this looks worse than in the early 2000s

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        Even homelander had the self awareness to realize he was surrounded by sycophants.

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        The most competent leadership was forced out in favor of sycophants.

        One of the few good things Trump and co did.

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    The first thing to die in any war is the truth.

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    They lie.

    We know they are lying.

    They know that they are lying.

    They even know that we know they are lying.

    We also know that they know we know they are lying.

    They, of course, know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying.

    Yet they still lie.

    In Russia, the lie has become not just a moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.

    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (1918-2008)

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    In the U.S. the lie has become not just a moral category, but the pillar industry of this country. shrugs Must be all that money.

    SeeMarkFly (2026)

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    decimate(v.)

    c. 1600, “to select by lot and put to death every tenth man,” from Latin decimatus, past participle of decimare “the removal or destruction of one-tenth,” from decem “ten” (from PIE root *dekm- “ten”).

    So they’ve taken out 10% of Iran’s capacity. Seems reasonable they should still score some hits.

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    i’m pretty conflicted. it’s like watching two good people told to fight another for the sake of entertainment.

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    It boggles my mind that the Trump admin is at least smart enough to use 1985 machines so we don’t expose modern weapons capabilities to China or Russia, but at the same time that’s likely the only way Iran could take down expensive planes with human lives on board.

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    Well, to play idiot’s advocate…

    “Decimated” means to reduce by a factor of 10.

    So if they had capability of 1,000, now they have capability of 100.

    And it only takes one person with one rocket to shoot down an aircraft.

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      Well, not to be a pedantic dick, but… Actually, it means to reduce by 1/10. So if they had a capability of 1000, now they have the capability of 900.

      That said, it’s been long-used to describe the near-total destruction of a thing; that strict meaning is pretty dated.

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      one of the big things we’re already seeing is the cost asymmetry – F-15E original price was $31M and costs roughly $19K per flight hour – a Shahad-136 drone costs $20K total