This appears to be part of the “Parents Decide Act” announced earlier in April by Gottheimer, as just one step in the process. So expect a lot more to come. Some bullet point plans from it:
- Require operating system developers like Apple and Google to verify users’ ages when setting up a new device, rather than relying on self-reported ages.
- Allow parents to set age-appropriate content controls from the start, including limiting access to social media, apps, and AI platforms.
- Ensure that age and parental settings securely flow to apps and AI platforms, so content is tailored appropriately for children.
- Prevent children from accessing harmful or explicit content - including inappropriate AI chatbot interactions - by creating a consistent, trusted standard across platforms.Currently, the bill is only in the introductory stage so it hasn’t yet passed and become law, so if this is important to you in the US you may want to speak to your representatives.
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I am sorry, but isn’t it 99% not about “children protection” but general surveillance for everyone wrapped up in a “pretty” package that plays, again, on fears as the parenting and unforeseen future backed up with the “time-saving” features for those who are in a hurry within the same system?
I can’t wait to verify my age to all 14 operating systems in my car. My Traeger grill has an OS. So does my router. Does a bare metal super loop count as an OS? It did in my undergrad operating systems class. Do I need to verify the pilot’s age for all of the operating systems in an F35? Who supplies the ID for the OS in an ATM?
Parents Decide Act
Looks inside
Government decides
“Allow parents to…limit access to apps”
Which “apps”? Who determines which apps need to be age approved? Notepad? Couldn’t you write something horrific and send it with that app? Better let the government take that control for you and dictate to OS creators what your kids and you see. They will of course come for your apps next.
cries in age verification pencils and pens
It’s actually super simple. Those NPUs and secure processing extensions are going unused, so just have a government-provided model analyze frames before presenting them on the screen. They can even introduce it in an acronym-named act, “Prevent Explicitly Depicted Objectry”. /s
You wouldn’t believe what you can write in base64
They always name bill the opposite of what the bill does. It’s part of the sales campaign.
If it’s called “parents decide” why they implement it as “government and corps decide”? 🤔
I’ve been talking about this “CEOs should think as parents” thing for years now. It was seen in a good light back then.
I would like to remind viewers that image is over 20 years old, and remains relevant (even more today than it ever was).
GrapheneOS is about to see a huge uptick in users.
Praying that Linux phones become more daily driver options.
GrapheneOS about to become illegal/probable cause for a terrorism charge. The goal is to criminalize everyone who opposes MAGA tyranny.
I’ll add that to my long list of reasons to stay out of the usa.
To be clear, that was just an expression of frustrated cynicism rather than a warning of any actual policy change. Also, it’s law enforcement in Spain and France that have actually been doing stuff like that so far; I just wouldn’t be surprised if US cops jumped on the bandwagon.
Can’t blame you for wanting to stay away from the US, though!
I didn’t think you were being serious.
Been running GrapheneOS for years now. Started with a Pixel 3, then moved to a Pixel 6 Pro, and now have it on a Pixel 9 Pro. It is ridiculously easy to install and use, and is regularly updated. I love it!
Seconded. On my third (and hopefully final) Pixel running GrapheneOS. Was using a Samsung Galaxy A7 in my teen years, then I got smart and got a Pixel 4 XL to load up GrapheneOS. Things were going well until the Pixel 4 XL spicy pillow (battery) incident.
My next Pixel was a Pixel 6 Pro, and that one was…fine, but yeesh, that thing made me hate Google’s Tensor modem, AKA the modem that is neck and neck with Exynos for being THE WOOOOOOOOOOOORST!
Currently rocking the Pixel 8 Pro, and it has a much better Tensor chip.
Hoping my next GrapheneOS phone will be a Motorola if their recent partnership bears fruit (and a phone with better, preferrably Qualcomm, modem).
I’m cautiously optimistic on Motorola, don’t particularly want to buy a Google phone to avoid Google.
I just put postmarketos on my spare OnePlus 6T. Pretty satisfied with it so far. Plasma mobile suits me better than gnome mobile or phosh.
I preordered the jolla phone with sailfish OS… hopefully that will be a good alternative to todays monopoly
I’m sorry are you thinking you will be allowed to use your non-sanctioned devices on the phone networks?
No they will be blocked at the network level to ensure the safety of children.
You may select a phone from a nice compliant brand, like Apple, Samsung or Google.
Any further attempts to avoid letting the government protect you will result in you being added to the watchlist we share with Peter Thiel.
Promise? Sounds like a feature, not a bug
who would like to have real “PALINTIRs” to moniter children.
Sadly the Sailfish phones tend to be very outdated on their Android compatibility, and with the new Verified Device API from Google even Graphene is having issues and the only two Play Store apps I still used have quit working on Lineage.
Ill just use web browser shortcuts, i guess i dont really care that much about apps anymore.
A lot of places are making incomplete web versions, or outright cutting access outside of the app, they all want that sweet sweet spyware in your pocket.
I dont know of single service I use that doesnt have a website
As a parent, I have zero faith in any system like this. I’m all for more parental controls(like what Gnome 50 just implemented), but I don’t want anything(program, web browser, video game, etc) to be able to query any kind of “age” field on an account on my system.
I don’t want ANYONE to know if my child is using a device. And if that means I have to create an adult account for them, then so be it. I don’t want my child’s information being scraped and imported into some random database that gets leaked or sold to nefarious actors.
Companies would love to know the age of a person using a device
There is a reason why Meta is pushing for age verification. They love children due to the fact that advertisers love to get children hooked early on a product. You should be very careful about who advertises to your child
Thank GOD! FINALLY I’ll get a Chance to give the Epstein Class my CHILDS personal Information!
The Epstein class wants to know who the minors on the internet are.
I mean I only have one person I’m interested in flirting with and I think it would be helpful to know which spaces have minors in them. Not required tho. I really don’t want to be sharing bootyhole memes with 12 year olds. If I did I’d be on roblox.
Fortunately this space is small enough we’ve got a regular contingent of us old farts (and a few young folk) who keep dropping by. Youngest person I am aware of is 18 (and no one needs to out themselves to disapprove that).
And since it's us old farts:
I mean I only have one person I’m interested in flirting with and I think it would be helpful to know which spaces have minors in them.
So do pedophiles. For (hopefully) the opposite reason.
Another lie at the altar of protecting children. They could give a fucking rip about kids, dimmest timeline ever.
Reddit User Uncovers Who Is Behind Meta’s $2B Lobbying for Invasive Age Verification Tech
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/reddit-user-uncovers-behind-meta-154717384.html
If it’s required then parents don’t decide shit
Friendly reminder that anyone who writes DRM is a traitor to the human race. Find a job that won’t haunt your conscience.
Agreed. Or locked bootloaders for that matter
It doesn’t sound like the parents are the ones deciding, though.
So, more people learning to compile kernels eh?
- Allow parents to set age-appropriate content controls from the start, including limiting access to social media, apps, and AI platforms.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t most, if not all, OSes have these capabilities already? Parents already don’t use them, what is supposed to make me think they’ll suddenly start using them if only there was another law mandating them?
Well it’s called the “Parents Decide Act” and these things usually have opposite effects from the name, so I’m pretty sure that it’s actually going to end up being a small handful of puritans deciding what’s appropriate for everyone else’s children.
“Patents decide” is a very thin veil around the personal data grab this really is. If parents so decide, they are perfectly capable to set up the correct ages for their children without handing any sensitive data over to bog tech. And if they decide to not care about age restrictions, they could still use their personal info to verify as adults on their children’s devices. This bill only benefits those, who can collect even more data then
