• BB84@mander.xyz
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    2 months ago

    1.5 hours runtime for like half a liter of gasoline?? That’s unbelievably inefficient. A half-liter of gasoline is like 15MJ, should power a laptop drawing 30W for a week.

    Maybe it would be better with a fuel cell.

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      2 months ago

      I don’t think that little generator cares if anything is drawing power, it will just output what it outputs full time

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      30W is 0.04 HP. That engine is just way, way bigger than you’d use if you were designing something like this from scratch, I think. Like putting a truck engine in a go kart, and being surprised that uses a lot of gas.

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    With the current energy prices for fossil, I feel like it’d be a smarter thing to charge them through off-grid solar.

    seriousness aside, this is cursed and awesome. wonder how long it’d take for the tank to run out after running modded Minecraft w/ shaders?

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      2 months ago

      My generator runs basically the same consumption regardless of whether you have a 150 or 300w load on it so probably the difference is going to be negligible.

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      Was about to say. I can’t help but feel like it’d be easier to put solar cells on the back of the laptop and let them charge its normal battery.

      I don’t think a solar array the size of the back of a laptop screen would be enough to run it, but it’d definitely be enough to charge it.

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        For an old power hungry laptop, you’d probably want a 100w panel. They’re about 1x0.5 meters. And realistically they put out 75-80w most of the day.

        But none at night, when everyone wants to hear a chainsaw idling next door.

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    How off-grid are you really, if you still rely on a grid-connected service to get the gasoline? Should have called it diesel-punk instead

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    “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should” 😅

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    actually that reminds me — there’s a series on youtube about putting solar panels on machines and checking whether they generate enough power to power the device

    so they put solar panels on a car and check whether the car runs,

    they put solar panels on drones to check whether they fly

    would this work for a laptop? how much solar panel area do you need to run the laptop? I assume 30W power usage, that means you need 0.15 m² solar panels under full sunlight, my laptop has like 15x20 cm which is 0.03 m² … so, you could only use it 20% of the time to give it time to recharge.

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      2 months ago

      Most laptops come with 100W bricks, 30W is consumption at idle but most consume around 60W when under load

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        30 Watts at idle is desktop territory, a laptop should be maybe half that nowadays. I’d love to check at the wall with a watt meter, but my older ThinkPad does not have a removable battery anymore and I cannot say how much it would draw just from a USB-C power supply.

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          That really depends on many factors, including type of CPU, RAM, thermal setup, screen size and brightness, radios etc. But you can test that pretty easily with a wall wart kill-a-watt type meter or a usb-c tester.

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      With a super lightweight laptop, 5w is achievable during light usage. I have one that draws that. It’s usable for Google Docs sort of stuff indefinitely on a 5w charger. It can also go down to ~2.2w with low screen brightness and very low load. It is absolutely terrible though, celeron 3855u. I got Minecraft Java to run at 60 fps though… But it was probably using 7-12w then.

      With a modern arm chip, you could get pretty great performance at that power draw. My phone (snapdragon 8 gen 3) in power saving mode can be like 5-10x faster at about 6 watts it seems like.

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    Also just for reference, a human consumes about 100W of continuous power output throughout the day (24-hour cycle).

    You can calculate this easily. WHO recommends 2000 kcal a day, which is 8 MJ, divide by 86400 seconds in a day --> 100W average consumption.