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Who fucking cares what some blood emerald mine owning, daughter marrying, alartheid loving, Afikaner says about the US?
Edit to add: I like the interviewer pushing back and calling out the Afrikaner white privilege.
Is this the same father that had groomed and then had a kid with his own step-daughter?
Hey look, One that nazi hunters missed. We will not miss again. But first, I say we hold him hostage as leverage so we can capture his son, then kill them both.
Well, the US is gonna go under soon. But I’m pretty sure people of color aren’t to blame.
I’m american
I like the guy asking the questions and confronting this asshole, how could he keep his calm and not punch him in the face?
Never interrupt an enemy while they are making a mistake.
Just for posterity for anyone who doesn’t know: the above is a real quote from Sun Tsu in his “The Art of War”.
here’s the rub on that. yes that logic normally works. but when this kind if pos “enemy” has all the money in the world, they need to be interrupted. often. and told to follow their nazi leader.
Does it really help in this case? No.
Hes an Irish CNN correspondant. He was born in county Kerry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donie_O'Sullivan_(journalist)?wprov=sfla1
He’s become adept at dealing with shitheads since he joined CNN around the end of the last Trump administration.
Why punch him in the face when the old ¢unt is punching himself in the dick on camera? Just let it happen.
Realistically, what material impact will come from this admission? My money is on nothing at all.
Don’t forget that he married his adopted daughter.
He what?
sorry, adopted step-daughter. Errol Musk raised her since she was 4 years old.
HE WHAT???
Musk’s family is all pedophiles and Nazis. Like actual Nazis fleeing to Africa after the war.
This fucking family ffs
you mean groomed her
That is some cartoon villain type shit.
There is no way that’s true… is it?
Yep
He got her pregnant too.
Ah, the traditional family.
Twice
The update I never wanted.
“America in the next 20 years will become, the first time in its history, a minority white country.” Paraphrased
Why is that bad, does Merica treat her minorities poorly?
This fuck-face has a much worse interpretation. It will be worse because non-white people are primitive jungle dwelling idiots. Fuck him and fuck Elon musk.
“America in the next 20 years will become, the first time in its history, a minority white country.”
Good. The fact that anyone with a drop of “non-white” blood isn’t considered white makes it inevitable anyway.
Do you have a source this is how it works in america? Isn’t it based on census data where people choose how they identify?
The fact that you need to identify your ethnicity at all is quite incredible to me.
“least racist country on Earth”
The way it works is vibes based on appearance. You either pass as white or you’re not white.
They’re referring to the ‘one-drop rule’, which was a real law here for way, way too long, and is still used by too many Americans as a basis to judge others.
First time in its history? Are you sure about that?
They did specify ‘country’. I don’t know enough American history, to argue when the country began, and when the genocide wiped out the first peoples.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Declaration of Independence: A Transcription
This is what makes us American. Not our race, creed, color, religion, gender, orientation, or anything else that might divide us. We stand united in our beliefs of self-governance, equality, and the pursuit of happiness.
Elon Musk and his racist father can go straight to hell.
Didn’t that only apply to white men at the time?
Yes, and not only that, the very forefathers who signed this declaration enslaved the people it didn’t apply to for a long time after.
This bright vision of America is contrasted by the hypocrisy and failures of its leaders and citizens from then and to this day. But it is also upheld by brave people who dedicate their lives to correcting it, and the everyday citizens who participate in their government to shape that vision.
Musk’s ironic and oblivious endorsement of white colonization could be said to reflect the hypocrisy of the first colonizing immigrants to this land, and the founding fathers. But his words do not reflect their ideals as laid out in the Constitution and the Declaration. I think the first step in eliminating that hypocrisy is holding ourselves to those ideals today.
I think that while racism is an American tradition, it is not an American idea and so must be rejected out of hand. Musk may live here, and operate massive business interests intertwined with our government, and he may technically be a citizen, but he is not an American in my view.
America has two souls in constant conflict. One striving for freedom and equality, the other towards exclusion, domination, and hierarchy.
yes, are you implying you’d prefer that americans continue that particular interpretation? or adopt the one this person is advocating for?
I’m saying it’s a lie and always has been. Americans need to stop fantasising about the past. Same goes with the creepy reverence for the founding fathers.
Focus on the future and building a better world, not clinging to a past that never existed.
so they shouldnt aspire to being better got it.
No they should, that’s exactly why they should ditch the tainted words of liars. You can strive for these things without clinging on to a rose tinted past.
Your nationalism is exactly why you are stuck struggling like his. It needs to die already.
I was hoping to instill a moment of self reflection into you. but clearly that didnt happen.
The words / aspirations coming from a flawed group of men don’t demean the nature of those aspirations. It simply means some things transcend cultures/generations. And I will note a fair number of the men involved in that whole process did aspire to them and wrote against slavery, for allowing women to vote, and other such things that align with your world view. surprise LGBTQ+ existed in the 1700s as well!
Nor do they necessarily invoke nationalism you’re railing against.
You can strive for these things without clinging on to a rose tinted past.
what percisely is ‘rose tinted past’ about this paragraph? and which parts do you disagree with? be specific now.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
On the one had you’re ‘yes of course they should aspire to the meaning of those words’ and on the other your harassing an individual whose invoking them in the hope of inspiring people to actually live up to them.
Your nationalism is exactly why you are stuck struggling like his. It needs to die already.
America’s*** not mine. see the distinction there?
Focus on the future and building a better world
Did you miss that part?
no, it was irrelevant to their harassment of the person they were replying to. they were simultaneously attacking the person accusing them of essentially being an idiotic nationalist for literally espousing the exact same position. Trying to claim the moral higher ground for literally identical positions is fucking retarded.
What do you think “harassment” means?
Only landed white men at that
yes, and it was known from the start to be lies. lies are what makes us american. they knew “all men” meant “white and landed”. then a century later they “had” to give more equality so they sprinkle a little crack around and boom got some slave labor again.
fuck america in all its forms.
it was never a real place.
edit: if i sound pissed it’s cause i am. also remember “white” meant “not irish. not italian. not catholic. not gay.” all sorts of shit over time. musk is a completely irredeemable piece of shit.
Oh hey we should give this guy a platform
- CNN fuckin apparently
It’s not platforming, its exposing.
You’re right. But research after research shows that exposing does not work, and that it actually appeals to those who are already inclined to extreme ideas.
If you’re thus inclined, you’re there already and not seeing a video isn’t going to make a major difference.
Let’s hope it becomes a “Sun is the best disinfectant” situation, intentionally or not.
None of these interviewers have the balls to actually press their interviewee on these topics.
Thats not the purpose of the interview, which is to shed light on the Musk background. Getting into an argument isn’t going to do that.
I wouldn’t “argue” with Errol. I would just keep asking him to explain what he means in more detail.
Also, exposing Elon’s father as an unapologetic racist does a lot to explain his behavior.
And the interview did this.
that right there is the mentality of a nazi
Or a confed slaver.
Potato, potato.
Yeah it’s hard-core slaver logic
The US becoming a country with a minority of white people would mean it’s healing. That’s how it was at least 250 years ago.
Lots of minorities voted for Trump. I wouldn’t call that healing or anything approaching it.
What you’re saying sounds an awful lot like “not white = good” and that’s not any better than other kinds of racism, it just sounds better in our cultural moment. It’s still racist though.
No, it’s non-majority-white = good.
The country’s been obsessed with whiteness from its inception. There’s nothing bad about white people being more exposed to non-whiteness.
Racism isn’t the answer to racism. Race amongst humans is a fucking farce propped up by people with no clue about biology or culture.
Agreed. Race is nothing but your genetic response to your ancestral environments.
“I don’t see color” liberal bullshit.
The concept of race is made up, but the results of it are very real and you’re a fool for ignoring that.
You’re a cunt for encouraging it.
What exactly am I encouraging?
This shit doesn’t go away when you ignore it, and the reason that it’s still a major problem today is because liberals like you think it’s better to just pretend it’s not real (I don’t see color), than actually addressing it.
Read MLK’s “Letter From Birmingham Jail” for a much better explanation than I could ever give you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_from_Birmingham_Jail#Summary_and_themes
https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html
For some reason I have the feeling that you won’t bother, but I’d love to be proven wrong.
What does this have to do with racism?
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Emerald heir Elon cultivated his entire worldview growing up in Apartheid South Africa with this guy as a dad. It should surprise no one that he’s tossing out nazi salutes on national television when he feels emboldened to do so by a fascist dickhead president.
A white supremacist’s father is also a white supremacist?
No way.
He took the name Elon out of a novel Werner von Braun wrote
Clutch your pearls a little tighter, you nazi bastard, brown people exist.
Maybe you should try seeing them AS PEOPLE and maybe that would help you out a little? Or you could, you know, STFU.
