• katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    18·
    1 day ago

    anyone who says deplatforming fascists doesn’t work just look at how quickly the trump admin got bored when they joined bluesky and everyone blocked them.

    • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      8·
      1 day ago

      Deplatforming is effective. It’d be even more effective if people got off platforms that did platform them. Twitter is far too popular. Facebook and Instagram as well

  • Draconic NEO@pawb.socialEnglish
    341·
    2 days ago

    Fighting fascists with lethal force is not incitement of violence. It is act of self-defense and defense of the ones you love and care about. People who apologize for fascists directly, or in the “enlightened centrist” way are no better than the fascists themselves. If you find yourself defending Nazis you should check yourself, otherwise you’ll soon find yourself one of them.

    • piskertariotEnglish
      6·
      1 day ago

      Carrying Nazi imagery should be considered a reignition of hostilities, and be met with overwhelming force.

      Its not a call to violence, it’s meeting a threat head on.

    • TeacrumbleBanned from communityEnglish
      116·
      1 day ago

      Do you mean actual nazis and fascists, or just right-wingers?

      • Draconic NEO@pawb.socialEnglish
        2·
        8 hours ago

        Nazi and fascist apologists are actual fascists. No one is buying this garbage except other fascists and fascist adjacent liberals.

        • TeacrumbleBanned from communityEnglish
          15·
          23 hours ago

          Good one, Eugene…

          People like you are the issue… Calling anyone who doesn’t align fascist, while calling for violence on them indirectly

          • Draconic NEO@pawb.socialEnglish
            2·
            8 hours ago

            Aligning fascist isn’t something you self-identify as, it’s shown through actions. You choose to defend fascists either due to aligning with them or doubting our judgement and resolve, you are still apologizing for and defending fascists, and that makes you one of them bud. If you don’t align with their beliefs you shouldn’t defend them, as fascists or as human beings or you’ll find yourself surrounded by them instead of decent people. You know, Nazi bar and all that jazz.

  • Gormadt@slrpnk.netEnglish
    32·
    2 days ago

    Tolerance is a peace treaty and the nazis are violating the peace therefore your post is BASED AF

    • bluesheep@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      8·
      1 day ago

      My god, don’t get me wrong I’m on your side but your post reminds me of the pAraDoX of tolerance. There ain’t no fucking paradox. Tolerance is a social contract and if you violate it by hating a certain group of people just because they exist then you violated the contract and we no longer have to tolerate you.

      Be based, kill a nazi

      • Gormadt@slrpnk.netEnglish
        3·
        21 hours ago

        It’s supposed to remind people of the stupidity of the “paradox of tolerance”

        My goal is to hopefully to spread the idea far and wide that “tolerance is a peace treaty” that hopefully more people will think of it when they encounter the kind of people who scream things like “so much for the tolerant left” and the like.

        Having the tools to fight nazis (rhetorical or otherwise) being spread far and wide will help us to defeat them again.

      • KombatWombatEnglish
        4·
        1 day ago

        IIRC the person who coined the term said the same thing. It wasn’t actually a paradox, it was just meant to illustrate that tolerance is not absolute and so you cannot tolerate people who will not tolerate others themselves.

  • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    69·
    3 days ago

    If you think that the answer isn’t violence you should know that neither is your silence.

    Stand up. Speak out.

    • cavitationfetishist2@quokk.auEnglish
      46·
      2 days ago

      Or actually do things? Like make a new society where people don’t just get infected by f…

      Yeah lol, nobody’s gonna do that shit. Kill a Nazi or kill yourself.

      • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        Judging by your reply I believe you have misunderstood what my post means.

        I am in no way explicitly precluding the killing of Nazis in that statement - although I don’t openly call for it.

          • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            2·
            22 hours ago

            If there’s a chance of a cure for the disease I’d rather let that person live so they could become an example of redemption.

            The undeniable life long psychological toll of taking another human’s life, regardless of the justification.

            The creating of martyrs.

            Counter violence begetting more violence.

            Depriving other humans of a friend, loved one, family member etc generally works as a great recruitment strategy - which is best avoided.

            The colloquial use of the word fascist versus its actual definition.

            Silencing of opposition doesn’t always have the intended consequences.

            etc etc

            P.S. Having said that, if they’re wearing matching armbands and shirts whilst tooled-up and marching towards someone’s house because of how they were born or their lifestyle then, yeah, it’s probably time to load up and take the safety off. Gotta draw a line somewhere…

      • flandishEnglish
        182·
        2 days ago

        it’s not violence to stop nazis. it’s self defense.

        • werty@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          13·
          24 hours ago

          Yeah nah. Justified violence in self defense is still violence. Let’s not remove the meaning of words please.

              • flandishEnglish
                21·
                14 hours ago

                sure. yes, it’s violence because fists hit things. sure. i am saying that specifically in relation to nazis, the value of self defense makes the “violence” no longer violence when it’s used as self defense.

                • werty@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  11·
                  12 hours ago

                  It’s still violence and you are being ridiculous. You can say that violence against nazis is ok, you don’t need to pretend.

  • gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    13·
    2 days ago

    People who support systemic violence should be afraid tbh, that’s not an “incitement to violence”, it’s taking out the trash.