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Donald Trump on Tuesday urged the Supreme Court to once again step into his messy legal brawl with magazine columnist E. Jean Carroll, appealing an $83.3 million jury verdict for defamation on the grounds that, as president, he is immune from the litigation.
The appeal, which has not yet been docketed at the high court, relies heavily on the court’s 2024 decision granting the president wide immunity for actions taken in office.
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As president he should be held more liable for defamation. You should not be using an official nation wide platform to bash and insult people, deserving or not.
Wait, so is he saying that defaming her was a presidential act?
Will this case then decide if there is a difference between a presidential act and a personal one, and if they rule it was presidential then that seals the king deal?
This motherfuckers extremely fragile ego can’t handle any sort of loss, no matter the reason. That’s why he can’t fucking let go of the 2020 election bullshit along with this. The fucker has drawn this case out for years, and now when all the courts are done with his bullshit and forced him to pay out, he still can’t let it go.
Yeah, Trump’s actions make a lot more sense when you view it through the lens of “he approaches every single interaction as if there needs to be a winner and a loser.” And his ego means he is truly obsessed with winning.
The guy cheated at golf against a 12 year old. There’s no low too low.
The article burying the facts that it all stems from Trump sexually attacking and digitally raping this poor woman in a department store ladies dressing room. Then using his new money to defame her all over again in the press years later. That poor woman.
This guy is the definition of a vexatious litigant. IMHO, we need a randomly selected pool of judges to determine if any case or complaint he makes can even be heard in court, and if he fails to make it to court, he automatically pays damages to the party he was pursuing legal action against.
We need a special system just to deal with assholes like this.
The rapist is persistent.
He is suing but he is asserting that he can’t be sued. Utterly unacceptable. He can’t make the excuse that he’s too busy when he’s already involved in litigation of a case.
He never stops. He is a rapist. An abuser. He has not stopped for so many victims including children
He is enriching himself on the back of the american taxpayers by the hundreds of millions, if not billions, and he is still too cheap to pay off a court ordered amount. I hope this doesn’t become a pattern. /s
Isn’t the E. Jean Carroll trial from before he was president? Also isn’t the president only immune to litigation when it comes to his duties as president? Like if the president’s dog ruins my favorite pair of pants does that mean I can’t take him to small claims to pay for a new pair of pants?
After all the hemming and hawing about not being ruled by kings Americans have just gone ahead and legislated themselves a king anyways.
The latest appeal comes weeks after the Supreme Court declined to take up a separate case from Trump in which the president is seeking to unwind a $5 million civil verdict that found he sexually abused and defamed Carroll at a Bergdorf Goodman department store in the 1990s.
Trump has denied wrongdoing in both cases.
The new appeal involves statements Trump made against Carroll in 2019, when he was president, that a jury found were defamatory and ordered him to pay $83 million in damages.
Appears he got in trouble twice: once for the actual rape, and another for defaming her in 2019 when that civil case was ongoing.
To repeat: The President of the United States was found “liable” for a rape he did, then got in trouble for defaming his rape victim and is now using the powers of the presidency to both urge the supreme court to excuse him or make the United States government the defendant in his place for the defamatory comments he made while president against his rape victim.
In addition to raising the prospect that Trump should be immune from the litigation, Trump is also asking the court to review whether the United States government should be the defendant rather than the president.
Unforgivably batshit insane.
Part of his duties as president are to have sexually assaulted people before becoming president.
- Sepreme Court, 2027
I also want to understand what shit his legal team cooked up for this
Immunity for official acts, did he retroactively abuse and defame her in his capacity as
kingpresident?He wasn’t in office when that verdict was handed down.
Y’know what? It’s just occurred to me that after reading about this man and then thinking “how did this happen?” for the millionth time…I think Trump is actually a bigger cunt than Hitler. He’s quite possibly the biggest cunt on the planet. And top 3 of all time? Possibly the likes of Vlad the Impaler and Genghis Khan were worse?
I think Trump is actually a bigger cunt than Hitler.
trump is a tremendous asshole having caused permanent damage to the USA and the world along with indirect deaths from cuts in humanitarian aid (USAID) plus the deaths of civilians in Iran in an unnecessary war, but lets not forget that Hitler was the man that caused WWII in Europe and made literal gas chambers for mass killings of millions of Poles, Jews, LGBT, Belarusians, Blacks, Greeks, Italians, Roma, Russians, Serbs, Ukrainians, his political opponents and others.
Hitler is still worse than trump.
Hitler is still worse than trump.
insert Simpsons “so far” meme
Trump is worse he isn’t out of office and not causing harm. He just hasn’t got to the gas chamber part of his plans yet. But it fucking coming if he allowed to retain power.
Trump is worse he isn’t out of office and not causing harm.
In 1938 Hitler seized the Sudetenland (modern day Slovakia and Czechia) that was just before the gas chambers. If trump seizes Greenland, then I’ll say he’s on track to be worse than Hitler. As it stands, as horrible as trump is, he barely ranks against Hitler so far.
I know trump is abhorrent, but don’t downplay the inhuman sins Hitler committed against the world and the people of 20th century Europe.
He’s never paying. He could live to be 300 years old and he’ll delay it for the duration while nobody forces him to do it. The big bitch baby will never see consequences for anything and that’s why this country is dead.
I don’t know for 100%, but my recollection is that Trump was required to put the money in escrow in order to appeal the decision. If that’s true, then he’s already paid it, and his tying it up in court is just delaying his victim from getting it.
The escrow paid out; E. Jean Carroll has it. Bitch-ass Trump is throwing a tantrum to try to get the courts to make her return it.
Anyone taking bets on which way this falls?
Despite them being corrupt and compromised to the core, I don’t think they’ll touch this one as they know 83M is chump change for Trump with all he’s already grifted this term.
Yup. This is what they do. They basically act like his co-dependent but mildly self-aware helicopter parents, and the entire rest of the legal system is an angry school administrator. SCOTUS enables him to get away with being an absolute fuck and protects him from any real consequences, but for appearance’s sake they occasionally make him grumble an apology under his breath or do detention during his free period.
My guess is actually that they refuse to take the case, allowing the original ~$80M judgement to stand.
Their original ruling was that he can’t be sued for actions taken in office, as long as he could argue that the actions were officially a presidential action. Basically, people can’t sue the POTUS personally for things that the POTUS does officially as president. It creates a barrier between “official actions” and “personal actions”, but gives broad discretion to be able to argue that an action is official. The ruling didn’t define what an official action is, and essentially handed that power to the POTUS.
But here’s the important part: Trump didn’t rape Carroll while in office, (it happened in 1995), so it’s not covered under that existing ruling. And even if he did, the SCOTUS isn’t going to want “I raped a woman as an official presidential act” on their record.
This is about the defaming portion, not the rape itself.
He defamed her while in office.
They dont have to worry about saying rape is an official act, only defamation
Have you not heard of Polymarket?
