As you can see they edited their original comment and added a comment to try to justify their behavior after they had banned me when I couldn’t defend myself.
I did make a mistake and thought that flatworm and db0 voted to refederate with hexbear and not lemmygrad but voting to refederate with lemmygrad doesn’t help disprove the claim that db0 is anti-tankie.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49093780 (Link to post where they voted to refederate with lemmygrad)
I mean, c’mon dude, it’s you.
The default assumption for anyone is that if they see your name, trolling will eventually occur. You’re like a fediverse mascot of sorts, one of those users that long terms lemmites tell nooobs “wait until you run into SMCF, just don’t take them serious”
Shit, there’s a handful of users I tell anyone coming to lemmy that I know in meatspace about, and in a good way, as in “here’s something that will at least make things interesting”, and you’re on that list because you’re a reliable troll. I know, you don’t always troll, just like fish don’t always stay in the water. But it’s a safe assumption to make, you dig?
YDM.
YDM troll
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The administration here can be pretty shitty to talk to sometimes, but they’re generally fair. Flatworm made a mistake then changed it because they didn’t want to be “that guy”. You kept on it relentlessly. And by the way, your screenshots don’t line up with the way you described the events in your comments. That plus the fact that I’ve literally seen you calling for genocide… Yeah, you’re a troll, YDI.
How does it not line up?
I’ve never called for genocides I’m pretty much against them all.
How does it not line up?
In another comment, you implied that you were banned to keep you from speaking out about the edit, as though they were trying to hide it. Your own images in the main post disprove that.
I’ve never called for genocides I’m pretty much against them all.
This is a lie. It was here. It’s removed now, but I tagged you, under my own volition, based on that comment.
The moderators agreed with me.
How’s that for irony?
Even flatworm agrees that’s a joke.
You’re showing a screenshot of being told you’re not funny as evidence they’re saying you’re telling jokes?
This is why you keep the trolls around as pets, folks. Who needs AI?
They edited and justified their comment after they banned me just like I said.
BPR at best. Delusion, which you used yourself in your opening line is a medical term and that also muddies the waters, but mostly its just obvious you came in for a fight. I would probably ban you for like a week myself.
I mean the whole interaction feels like spoiling for a fight, but reacting like an internet comment is a ‘diagnosis’ seems like intentionally perpetuating conflict.
It’s no different then calling someone the r-slur and editing a comment and trying to justify it after handing out a ban seems like power tripping bastard behavior to me.
I do not think it is because an r-slur is an slur and dementia is not.
But it does show they felt they shouldn’t use that word, for whatever reason, and they changed it. It looks like they expressed some kind of remorse and you’re jumping on it as a gotcha rather than an overture towards decency and discourse.
I edited the comment out of an abundance of caution because I take ableism seriously. It didn’t seem ableist to me at the time, more like smcf was engaged in a cheap point scoring exercise, but I was willing to remove the comment, even though it seemed like he was just being a debate pervert. And his original comment was clearly a lie. Just because he changed his story after getting banned doesn’t mean a thing. That’s what all trolls do when they are caught.
Where did I change my story?
I sent you a DM admitting I got lemmygrad and hexbear confused and if you didn’t immediately ban me after insulting me I could have explained it to the thread to.
I banned you because I’m sick of seeing your username pop up in places where it isn’t wanted, trolling as hard as you can to stir up instance drama. Go spread your toxic bullshit somewhere else. The fact you are straight back to continue this pointless and frankly pathetic drama makes me think a longer ban is in order tbh.
smcf was engaged in a cheap point scoring exercise
he was just being a debate pervert
And his original comment was clearly a lie. Just because he changed his story after getting banned doesn’t mean a thing. That’s what all trolls do when they are caught.
And after I ask you how I changed my story you change your tune to:
banned you because I’m sick of seeing your username pop up in places where it isn’t wanted…
I brought this up because you were acting like a power tripping bastard and right now you are proving that you are one.
Wow, you really are a debate pervert.
There is no change of tune. I offered you a reason for your ban, trolling, and that reason was, and is, accurate. I simply added that I’m getting tired of it.
Simply turning up to
everya yptb post to call us tankies adds nothing to the community.
I think when you create a persona based on trolling, you have to expect that your serious comments won’t be taken seriously
Not that you precisely deserved it, but this shouldn’t be a shocking outcome
delusion
Outright ableist. YDM.BPR, open up with calling everyone you disagree with delusional, then cry foul at the response. He then changed the response after thinking about it.
you seem really worked up about so-called ‘tankies’, i suggest going outside.
Your comment started a fight and you continued it. Flatworm seems to agree it was a poor choice of words, since they changed the comment.
What kind of energy did you bring to that conversation? It looks like Flatworm was barely meeting you where you were at.
A two day ban looks fair to me.
They ignored a pm trying to clear up the lying and trolling allegations and edited their comment and added justification for their ableism know I was banned (because they banned me.)
That’s power tripping bastard behavior.
People should be able to handle civil discourse on the internet without resorting to personal insults.
Are you trying to bait me now, too? This has nothing to do with the energy you brought to the table, calling them delusional right off the bat.
Looks like you’re trying to continue the fight.
Sorry are you under the impression I called flatworm delusional?
Not taking this bait, no sir.
This has nothing to do with the energy you brought to the table, calling them delusional right off the bat.
I’m trying to clarify what you meant here because I never called flatworm delusional and your comment isn’t clear if you understand that or not.
Uh, if you’re trying to continue an argument into DMs (which you’re then publicly posting screenshots of) then I think you push yourself solidly into YDI. Honestly great call by the mod.
Why do you think this is continuing an argument and not providing the proof that the mod requested?
I could not post it in the thread to defend myself at that point because after the mod insulted me they banned me.
Why do you think this is continuing an argument and not providing the proof that the mod requested?
You can’t parse this? If they didn’t respond to a DM, they were letting you have the final word, which is usually the most important thing, right? Since, you know, you needed to screenshot it and make that public. Which makes this about more about continuing the fight that triggered the ban…
Well that’s one way to view this.
Trolling is too subjective to be used a justification for banning. I will die on this hill.
I’m on the fence there.
Trolling can be blatant enough to be objective, and you gotta leash serial trolls or they take over.
The problem is that good trolls, the ones with subtlety and a sense of purpose can be damn hard to weed out. So you get a swathe where you can’t separate trolls from people being genuine, but “distasteful” for that community. It’s a damn thorny problem to navigate.
The tankies have been working on db0 for a while but I think it isn’t taking as well as they would like. The vote (a year ago) was overwhelmingly against refederation, and I’ve seen a reasonable amount of pushback to their bullshit recently as well.
The one and only difference is that we aren’t constantly at each other’s throats nowadays. I’d say everyone just grew up a bit. Shame it’s not happening over the aisles in centristville.
The community rejected it but if you look at the votes db0 and flatworm voted for it which was my point.
The instance’s decisions are still community-driven through votes, so even if that were the case it’s still up to dbzer0’s community whether or not refederation would happen. If either of the two were to suddenly make a unilateral decision without anyone else’s input, I’d imagine the community would be upset about it as that goes against the instance’s principles.
This is the claim I was disproving against the admin not the community.
I consistently vote to stay federated with lw, so I guess that makes me a liberal sympathiser too huh?
I don’t know about you being a liberal collaborator or a sympathizer but I’d say that would make you not against liberals.
Debate perving yourself so hard you’re left accusing anarchists of… centrism?
Classic blunder.
Well I’m directly talking to flatworm here and I’m not quite sure what their views are but I don’t think not being against liberals automatically makes you a centrist.
Unless I’m missing something?
People can vote to federate for a variety of reasons. I chose my instance because I like seeing everything that’s going on, not because I agree with authoritarians or maga. Some of us want to choose our experience for ourselves.
