A joint advisory from the NSA, CISA, and FBI accuses Chinese AI firms of industrial-scale distillation to illegally extract capabilities from top U.S. frontier models.

“China-based artificial intelligence companies are conducting systematic extraction of proprietary functionalities and capabilities of U.S. AI companies’ models through industrial-scale knowledge distillation campaigns that form the core—not merely a supplement—of their AI development strategy,” the agencies wrote.

  • 0x4f1English
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    10 minutes ago

    AI companies accusing anyone else of theft and fraud. Now that is fucking rich!

  • isekaihero@ani.socialEnglish
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    2 hours ago

    I remember Deepseek suddenly being much more advanced than the USA LLM’s. The Chinese aren’t trying to bake censorship and refusal algorithms into their LLM and thus are making much more rapid progress, and I think this is just the USA AI bros throwing a temper tantrum about it.

    I went to college for IT and learned windows server. One of the things my professor told me is “if you build the monster, you must feed the monster” and that’s in regards to admins trying to set up complicated security systems to prevent their users from doing stupid things. Yes you can do that, but it wastes your time and causes you headaches. That’s sort of what the USA AI bros are dealing with right now.

    Anyone running LLM at home on their own hardware is downloading the abliterated models that don’t refuse your requests. So what are the USA AI bros actually accomplishing by baking censorship into all their latest LLM’s? They aren’t censoring anyone except the novice users who don’t know how to run LM studio at home. And they’re giving China the easy victory.

    • schipelblorp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      2 hours ago

      I remember Deepseek suddenly being much more advanced than the USA LLM’s.

      Deepseek was better than all US models because it was stolen. Obviously. /s

      Edit: Actually, Deepseek was better because the US prevents China from buying top-of-the-line chips, so they had to innovate in directions other than seeing how much smoke they can generate by lighting money on fire.

    • Telorand@reddthat.comEnglish
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      2 hours ago

      The Chinese aren’t trying to bake censorship and refusal algorithms into their LLM and thus are making much more rapid progress…

      If you think China isn’t baking censorship into their models, just try asking one about the Tiananmen Square massacre.

      • frongt@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        1 hour ago

        That filtering is done at the presentation layer. If you also DeepSeek in English or Chinese, it blocks the answer, but if you ask in Spanish it doesn’t. The model itself isn’t censored.

        Or at least that was true last time I tried. I don’t know if they’ve done any “alignment” on the model since then.