• RedWeasel
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    3 hours ago

    So Mass surveillance CEO say taking away their power will cause more of it? Makes sense /s

      • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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        Which surfaces? If we’re talking nails on chalkboard then it’s all smiles. But a well greased main gear? May wanna push for a harsher threat.

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      1 hour ago

      It’s threat of punishment. There’s the money, and then there’s the rest of us. We’re at the point where the money doesn’t expect further pushback (with teeth) from us.

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    I thought maybe he meant that taxing them would anger the billionaires and more mass surveillance is just what they do when they’re angry, but no. He just means surveillance of billionaire’s bank accounts. I’m not sure that really counts as “mass.”

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      26 minutes ago

      Every time I deposit more than $600 cash I’m getting monitored. These fuckers have no clue how we live.

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        And that’s just the mandated monitoring – it doesn’t include the monitoring that businesses and banks are doing for free, on their own.

        I hear rumors that many places are rolling out systems to record and track the serial number of every bill of cash that goes in or out, because they can sell that information to big data collectors who can use it to piece together a picture of where cash flows – previously the only flow of money they couldn’t completely monitor. And, of course, that big data is available to the government at any time, either by buying it or by getting a friendly judge to sign off on sweeping warrants.

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    I swear these tech billionaires are all absolutely batshit insane!

    • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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      No, they are sane. Just completely evil. Not even human anymore. I don’t know what it is about money that makes someone despise their own species, but it’s very consistent.

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    Conveniently glossing over the fact that we, in a normal world, would only be using the AI to look at all of their stuff and not ours. Stupid idea all around.

    Why can’t we just use the numbers we already have? I mean they say Musk is worth x amount, Bezos owns x amount. They get those big numbers from somewhere. Tell them how much tax they owe based on how much they theoretically own. They can pay their taxes with their theoretically valuable stocks/shares whatever. They are going to be all like, “I can’t afford that. Nobody has that much money!”

    To which we will say, “Fine then, uh give me that super yacht right there and 10 super cars and we will let you start a payment plan.”

    If people don’t pay their taxes the government can seize their property to cover it, right? This is how we can achieve the reduction of billionaire wealth and find a path to balancing out all of the money we owe ourselves from all the government shenanigans over the last century or so.

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      You’re trying to be fair while they are hanging you by the toes, beating you with a rake, and then catching the nickels that fall out.

      Then they use that money to buy more rakes, and do that to everyone you know until they’ve robbed the entire world.

      They’re not planning a fair fight. They never have fought fair once in their entire lifetime. The more you fight fair, the more people die horribly.

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        How is taxing someone an unreasonable amount of money based on what seems to be an arbitrary gross calculation of their apparent wealth with the intention of taking their assets to pay for it fighting fair?

        To actually be fair, I would prefer my government be more fair than less fair as a general rule.

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    Only if we don’t tax them enough.

    If they can’t afford it, they can’t do it.

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      All individual wealth over $50M should be taxed at 100%.

      If you can’t live very comfortably on $50M, you need budgeting advice, not more money.

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    Financial obesity is neurotoxic, an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

    Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

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    We’re already under mass surveillance, they just haven’t made the AI tools capable enough to sort that data into a digestible format

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      But they’re working on it. That’s the real reason for all that massive datacenter buildout. It will finally be possible to monitor everything everyone says and does.

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    It should be legal to spit on this guy if you see him in public.

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    We’ll just have to increase taxes until they can’t afford surveillance I guess.