Metten also stressed the critical need for nations to hold China accountable for its ‘severe human rights violations’ during its fourth Universal Periodic Review, done by the UN Human Rights Council in January. Such as what’s happening in Tibet.
Several other nations seconded that opinion. Including Denmark, Finland and Sweden.
“The Chinese government’s ongoing policy of repression aims to eradicate the authentic and self-determined Tibetan culture. This policy must be stopped immediately,” Metten said.
Having China in a human rights council would be as ironic as having Russia in a peace counsil
They already are. China, Russia and the USA are permanent members of the Security Council. Russia and the USA were both current members of the Human Rights Council for separate concurrent terms, but Russia was removed as part of the aftermath of their invasion of Ukraine.
Part of the idea is having these dangerous nations included at the table so they can be held accountable to whatever degree the UN is capable. If they are removed from that process entirely, what motivation do they have to comply with the UN at all?
If they are removed from that process entirely, what motivation do they have to comply with the UN at all?
China’s government doesn’t see a motivation to comply with UN (or any) rules as long as they don’t support their expansionism and economic colonization. What they want is to influence UN decisions and re-writing human rights and other rules to their benefit, eliminating democracy.
The UN is actually doing its primary job very well, preventing another world war.
Having all superpowers in the security council is likely a significant contributor to that success.
The UN is actually doing its primary job very well, preventing another world war.
The jury is very much out on this.
I think it’s arguable that the UN was an important forum during parts of the cold war.
Although to be honest I think the main reason why the cold war remained cold is neither of the two main belligerents wanted a hot war. The USSR post-Stalin was not an expansionist power. And the USA wasn’t expansionist in the traditional sense of wanting to conquer territory. US business interests enjoyed the CIA’s dial-a-coup service whenever they wanted while the KGB enjoyed happy fun times in Europe and Africa.
Both countries managed to suck the other into bloody proxy wars at various times and the UN was useless there.
Even during crisis points (Cuba) the UN was mostly a venue for grand standing and shoe pounding while the real deescalation happened in bilateral side-channels.
Now I really don’t see any value to the UN. During my lifetime the only thing it has done is rubber-stamp Bush’s wars. And I don’t see it doing anything to stop—say—a conflict between the USA and China either of those countries want it.
I also doubt any of these majors powers are actually committed to human rights or peace, but I was asking the question rhetorically, as in, I think that’s the reasoning behind including these members that seem to conflict with the very mission of the various councils.
Expansionism to… a bunch of uninhabited holes in the ground? Oh no, the horror.
Nevermind that I’m fairly sure that under the recognized methods of acquiring sovereignty, China owns the Paracels through either effective occupation or conquest during the Vietnam War.
Can we ban Chinese imports and watch everything crumble?
Didn’t literally all the Muslim countries visit Xinjiang and come out of it with the consensus of “yeah, y’know what, China’s doing pretty good all things considered.”
What makes the opinions of white non-Muslim people matter in this context?
Truth is not supposed to be assigned to who makes the statement. What is actually happening is what is truth.
Also not all Muslim countries, mainly authoritarian régimes.
Name one that didn’t.
Just 1? Indonesia, probably the biggest Muslim country. Additionally turkey, Morocco, Tunesia, all not small Muslim countries. Many more in the middle east and Asia.
https://epaper.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202305/01/WS644ed675a310b1dea957e2eb.html
Do you even know what you’re talking about?
Giving high praise to the authorities’ efforts to guarantee people’s freedom of religious belief, Ben Perkasa Drajat, Indonesian consul-general in Guangzhou, Guangdong province, said that Muslims in Xinjiang are free to go to the mosque to pray, after visiting the Id Kah Mosque in Kashgar and the Xinjiang Islamic Institute. “The news from the Western media that the Chinese government doesn’t allow Muslims to do religious activities is not true.”
Seems I missed that, although tbh it’s not as strong as the letter signed by those other Muslim countries for the human rights council (I mean the Indonesian consul general in Guangzhou sure does not sounds like the head honcho).
Regardless, my first point still stands.
Mehmet Mert Tokman, Turkish consul-general in Chengdu, paid a visit to the region years ago. During this visit, he said that the land has a rich heritage and has undergone tremendous development and change, which can be seen particularly in the region’s incredible infrastructure construction achievements.
Turkey
Algeria’s Ambassador to China, Hassane Rabehi, was quoted by local media as saying, “The fruit here is so sweet, just like the life of the people here”, adding that he got to know the “real situation” of Xinjiang, where the rights of people of all ethnic groups are well protected, said reports.
Algeria
The delegation was led by Ali Rashid Abdullah Ali Alnuaimi, the former foreign minister of the United Arab Emirates and currently Chairman of the World Muslim Communities Council, who after the meeting with the officials said that the concept of targeting Muslims or Islamic civilization has never been part of Chinese civilization trait. China has never been anti-Islam or sided with the forces which are working against Islam, Ali said. He added, “it is some anti-China forces that have indulged in a smear campaign on the persecution of the Muslims in the Xingjian region that needs to be exposed and it is his responsibility to tell the world, the other side of the story.
World Muslim Communities Council
Dr. Osama Sayyid Al Azhari, the Egyptian President’s Advisor on Religious Affairs said “I believe that this visit demonstrates that China has attached great significance to preserving the ethnic culture with racial distinctions of many nationalities in Xinjiang province.”
Egypt
Dr. Mustafa Ceric, former Mufti of Bosnia and Herzegovina said “What we’ve heard outside China surely has a bias. I’d say Muslim communities in China include more than Uygurs and there’re more than ten Muslim groups such as Hui and Mongolian and others in the region.”
Bosnia and Herzegovina
“We are impressed to see the institution’s new and unique compound and were amazed by the elegant design of the prayer hall, I feel Muslims can feel the aroma of peace, the moment they step in here,” said Mestaoui Mohammad Slaheddine, advisor to the Tunisian Prime Minister and also secretary general of the Supreme Islamic Council.
Tunisia
The delegation from the Arab League, after wrapping up a visit to Northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, said that allegations of “ethnic genocide” and “religious persecution” are completely false, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson stated on Monday. Arab countries appreciate China’s efforts in caring for minority groups, including Muslims in Xinjiang, and they will continue to support China’s endeavors in maintaining the development and stability of Xinjiang.
Arab League (as a whole)
Mohammad Keshavarz-Zadeh, the Iranian ambassador to China, visited mosques in the regional capital Urumqi and Kashgar. He was amazed by the conditions there. Responding to rumors fabricated by some Western media that Xinjiang “restricts freedom of religious belief,” the ambassador said that, during a visit to the Baida Mosque located in Urumqi, normal Islamic religious activities in mosques took place in line with the Muslim people’s will.
Iran
Mohammad Keshavarz-Zadeh’s view was echoed by Mahendra Bahadur Pandey, the Nepalese ambassador to China, during their visit to an exhibition themed around the arduous fight against terrorism and extremism in Xinjiang. “I appreciate that the Chinese government and people not only substantially control terrorism but they have given new ways of life, including vocational training and education. It means people in Xinjiang are not suppressed, and they have been given opportunities to move forward toward peace and development,” said Pandey.
Nepal
Sanmugan Subramaniam, minister of the Embassy of Malaysia in China, said that there are many textile enterprises here that provide a large number of positions for local job seekers, which is of great significance for economic development. “I hope to have more opportunities to visit Xinjiang in the future and feel its progress and development,” said Sanmugan Subramaniam.
Malaysia
Bruneian ambassador to China Pehin Dato Rahmani said that after years of effort, Xinjiang has made remarkable achievements in development. People of all ethnic groups here are living together in harmony and enjoying the freedom of religious belief. People’s livelihoods have also been improved.
Brunei
“We hope to work with China to jointly defend the multilateral system with the United Nations as the core, adhere to the values of peaceful development, and further strengthen people-to-people exchanges,” said Anyin Choo, Guyana’s ambassador to China.
Guyana
In general, recognition of the Uyghur genocide is only really common in the Global North and amongst Western countries… but more notably, what’s been missing is condemnation from Muslim countries in the Global South.
Even Turkey, a NATO member, has only gone so far as to deny extradition.
Didn’t literally all the Muslim countries visit Xinjiang and come out of it with the consensus of “yeah, y’know what, China’s doing pretty good all things considered.”
All things considered? There are some Uyghurs who could flee the country, and they don’t say “it’s pretty good” (this statement alond is disgusting given the human righrs violations hapoening there), and independent NGO hasn’t been allowed to enter Xinjiang.
What happens there is a human catastrophe, comparable to what Nazi Germany did in the second world war.
You are utterly deranged if you genuinely believe what you just wrote. The more likely scenario however is that you are a Nazi apologist trying to minimise their atrocities. Even if the worst western theories about the Uyghur genocide are true, it is still not comparable to what the Nazis did. The Nazis had documented slaughterhouses that killed millions. Can you name just one person who was provably killed in this Uyghur genocide?
nein ist es nicht halt die fresse und hör auf naziverbrechen zu verunglimfplichen
A genocide is a genocide. Bist Du es nicht leid, immer wieder diesselbe Propaganda abzurufen als selbst zu denken?
Ich bin so froh das ich damit aufgehört habe immer dieselbe Propaganda abzurufen und selbst zu recherchieren. Es ist krass wie oft Behauptungen wie diese, die überall verbreitet werden von der gleichen sehr wackeligen Quelle kommen.
Wo sind denn Deine Recherchen?
Recherchiert hast Du noch was. Du bist einfach ein Teenager, der auf die Propaganda reinfällt. Du solltest Dir selbst einen Gefallen tun und von diesen ‘Communities’ fernbleiben.
Keine Zeit das alles abzutippen aber wenn man sich die Person Adrian Zenz mal anguckt und was sie sonst so über China und das Christentum schreibt sollten eine Menge Zweifel aufkommen.
Ist echt witzig dass das hier gerade das Thema ist weil der sogenannte “Genozid” mich dazu gebracht hat das ganze westliche Mediensystem zu hinterfragen. Ich konnte einfach keine verlässliche Quelle finden. Die (fehlende) Berichterstattung über die Nazi Milizen in der Ostukraine haben dem ganzen den Rest gegeben.
Keine Zeit das alles abzutippen
LOL
By definition, you’ve described a self-selecting sample.
Nobody is questioning whether China is policing Xinjiang very heavily, but calling it a genocide implies that China is somehow targeting all Uyghurs and not just radical elements. Most people are fine and Uyghurs are still represented in government and at top educational institutions. Comparing it to Nazi Germany is both reductionist and downright inaccurate.
Its NATO. Their opinion matters became we will fund right wing death squads if you disagree.
Hell yeah more invasions to fund the military industrial complex
