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Good for them, we need way more of this.
Honestly yes, I don’t think people truly realise how deeply in the shitter we are. Best outcome would be to duck off with it now, in a year. Carbon zero. But this won’t happen.
If you use any modern product you wint be carbon zero. So please stop wearing clothes, using the internet , living in a home, eating any type of food.
You’re right, since the only two options are the destruction of the planet or to stop using literally anything ever at all, I guess I’ll fucking kill myself now
Yes? That’s why we’d have to go after the corporations, the problem arises at production. Truth is we’re overpopulated because of the bosch-haber cycle, which is fueled by fossil fuels.
The alternative is certain extinction
How about we lower our collective emissions by tossing you into a volcano, instead? Would you like that?
Just like my ancestors
I think most people are more than aware of climate change and climate change issue
As a matter of fact they are not. Otherwise we would see a drastic shift in policy and voting behaviour, given how strongly the climate changed in the past decade. But instead people vote conservative and reactionary again, after they lost their homes in wildfires, floods and storms that can be reliably linked to climate change, and whose occurence renders their home area unliveable in the long run.
We had a flood two years ago in Germany killing over 200 people. Our former conservative party, now populist reactionary, removed a law for flood protection just two month prior to the devastating flood. And the people most affected voted for them again in the upcoming election. And that was after the parties chancellor candidate laughed heartily in the background while the president held a speech mourning the victims.
The people are either dumb, or ignorant or both. They’d rather die than change anything in the slightest way.
Go on Facebook and look for the comment section of news coverage on EVs or anything climate related. They are at most vaguely familiar with the issue, or deny it in some shape or form
No don’t if your going protest do it right your not sending a message by disrupting someone’s nice day out your just going be a nuisance plus why a gaming convention what the fuck does a gaming convention have to do with the environment
100% agree. Just being a nuisance isn’t enough. These protestors really ought to be attacking fossil fuel execs.
folks need to start causing real, material damage to fossil infrastructure at the least
this wont stop unless the expenses of fossil fuels outweigh the profits, and people need to become those expenses
That’s a more ideal way of doing targeting big businesses and fossil fuel execs through peaceful forms of protesting a good example of this is how some people in London and Glasglow are protesting ULEZ by vandalising ULEZ cameras if your going protest make sure it doesn’t affect anyone in the general public
You do it then. Be the change you want to see in this world.
It still wouldn’t change anything, other then get more security and anonymity for their immediate replacements.
Yeah exactly, that would be protesting against the actual problem not jsut disrupting random shit
What a thing to cowardly type from behind your keyboard you wanker.
What do you recommend? not being disruptive means you are completely ignored by everyone.
Well There’s plenty of ways of protesting and getting the word out that don’t involve getting in the way or destroying/nicking property you can have peaceful demonstrations ideally populated like a city square where you and a massive crowd of people gather and make your voices heard im fairly certain that’s called a rally or you use art as a way of protesting graffiti etc you can also boycott a organisation or government institution and you can do a picket protest as well
That shit doesn’t work.
Real change happens when everyone is pissed.
It worked for tons of demonstrations through out history
List some important global changes that happened because people protested in a way that did not bother anyone.
Why a game convention though? Does the gaming industry use any oil?
It’s about getting the message out and being disruptive. Standing on a street corner with a sign does nothing as the news ignores you.
But disrupting a major event/traffic or attempting to destroy a priced piece of art with soup out of all things makes you and your organisation look like a massive pile of shit there are way way way better ways of protesting such as picketing as you said or rallys if you bring enough people say 200 or 300 you’ll appear on the social media and prehaps local and regional news prehaps if you make a large enough splash you might sway the general public to your cause
You don’t. Protests happen all the time in the hundreds. How many have you heard of? I haven’t heard of any unless it gets violent. Unions strikes are disruptive so you hear about them. Cost of living marches walking past government buildings or protesting outside of them? Nothing.
Want to know the last march I heard about that was large and non disruptive? It was on a Youtube video. The youtubers didn’t even know it was happening.
Blocking a road is boring now so isn’t being reported as much, disrupting a gaming tournament gets news.
Rallies help don’t get me wrong but they are often ignored. The disruptive, novel protests get news coverage.
plenty of protests have happened through history. Some have been more successful than examples being Marton Luther Kings rallies woman suffrage movements the salt march singing revolution plus with the world of the Internet if you make a large enough rucus you’ll have eyes and ears on you from across the world
Okay lets take the civil rights movement. Incredibly disruptive and even violent at times, albeit usually in response to violence. Rosa Parks for example sat on the front of a bus and got arrested. She didn’t move. She stopped a bus and all the passengers on the bus until she was arrested, nobody critisises her because some people were late that day!
Highschollers trying to desegregate school needed armed guards to just get in the building. They didn’t go “dang! Best hold up a sign outside, don’t want to stop others learning”
Many performed sit-ins. Sit-ins take up space and make it hard for others to use the space for its intended purpose.
They were very disruptive and people hated them for it. It wasn’t only speeches and marches.
Women sufferage involved arson, women learning martial arts and beating people up, vandalism, and sex boycots, once again not just speeches and marches.
But pwease pwotest quieter! We twying to be ignowant in peace!
Rosa Parks for example sat on the front of a bus and got arrested. She didn’t move. She stopped a bus and all the passengers on the bus until she was arrested, nobody critisises her because some people were late that day!
I think a lot of people tend to look at Rosa Parks’ act through a modern lens and say, “she wasn’t disruptive, she was just sitting there,” not realising that it was incredibly disruptive at the time. What she did seems like nothing by today’s standards because her protest worked.
Women sufferage
Martyrs, too. Emily Davison threw herself in front of a horse race and died for it in the name of women’s suffrage. There’s debate about whether she intended to die, or whether she may have just been trying to attach suffragette colours to the King’s horse, but the fact is that she was consciously willing to die for her cause. Plus she went on hunger strike in prison to the point where she was force-fed on multiple occasions.
Suffragettes going on hunger strike in prison, and the prison authorities violently force-feeding them to the point where they sustained fairly serious injuries, was common in the early 1910s. It’s not particularly pleasant reading, but there’s an article from the Museum Of London that talks about some of the lengths suffragettes went to with their hunger strikes that is worth reading for anyone who isn’t familiar.
I think everyone should learn about the suffrage movement and the lengths they were willing to go to to fight for women’s rights, particularly with civil protest being a somewhat relevant topic over the last few years.
When did anyone destroy art with soup?
Just Stop Oil threw soup on artwork in a museum. It wasn’t destroyed all the souped art had protective glass shields and they knew that which is why they did it. Basically just made a mess that you can clean up with a cloth and mop.
They’ve souped quite a few artworks before.
Well that’s the opposite of an answer to my question, it’s an example of a time they didn’t destroy art with soup
Attempted to destroy art with soup read into it if you want to it’s van goths sunflower painting thankfully the morons didn’t account for the painting being protected by some protective glass
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63254878
Also here’s the video
???
https://youtube.com/shorts/NYUqSv1ug5o
They knew full well that the glass was there, which is why they did it to that painting. What makes you think they’re morons???
Hey, while we’re talking about it, why do we seem to care so much about a painting that wasn’t damaged, but we don’t seem to put nearly as much effort into hating on the people and companies that are actually destroying the world we live on?
Because “we” is an idiot who doesn’t understand what they are talking about but want to appear as if they do.
I’m genuinely trying to understand what information you’re using to come to the conclusion that they’re an idiot
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Does the average person tune in to watch O&G industry conventions?
I suppose that there’s plastic in various electronic devices, like controllers.
There’s plastic in literally everything welcome to the modern world
Well, computers run on electricity, and gaming is a frivolous use, I guess?
Well this is way better than blocking roads and glueing your hands on the tarmac
Nah, I’d say it’s about the same. I like both tactics!
“gamign”, said the gaming journalist
At least we know it isn’t an AI generated article
That’s not any better
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getting your computer toy showcase interrupted is literally exactly like an old lady getting stabbed, you absolute dork
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youre not a loser for playing video games, youre a loser for comparing a game showcase getting interrupted to stabbing someone, or implying that being okay with the first says anything about your opinion on the former
Every car that is on the road is contributing to the blocking of emergency vehicles. If we’d follow the demands of these groups it would make it much easier for emergency vehicles to respond to emergencies.
And which peace of art were actually damaged? Throwing soup on a washable glass pane cannot be considered damageing by all means, leaving aside the fact that the comparision to stabbing someone remains ridiculous
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You can turn off the engine of an idle car. This argument is entirely “see what these people made us do” when the drivers enjoy wasting fuel on standing around.
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they tried breaking through the glass protecting the painting first, so they could destroy the actual painting
Well that’s just straight up not true. Not only did they not try to break the glass, they did research in advance to ensure that the art was appropriately sealed to ensure they didn’t damage it. If your argument is so shaky that you feel the need to just fucking lie to make the people you don’t like look worse, maybe you might want to reconsider your stance instead of just committing even harder.
Since you’re inevitably going to go “yEs ThEy DiD”, here’s a video of them doing it to get that over with in advance.
https://youtu.be/BN-C5N60u_M?si=t50PSWfEz1pQ73hJ
Edit: “won’t someone please think of the poor display cases?!”
Jesus man, the planet is dying and you’re upset about a pane of glass getting soup on it - get your damn priorities straight
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is there any actual footage of said visitor trying to smash the bullet proof glass covering the mona lisa or is this literally just based off the one tweet news orgs seem to reference
this guy also is not associated with just stop oil from what i can tell
it seems pretty disingenuous to judge the demonstration in the post, or anyone supporting it, because ‘some completely unrelated guy did something completely unrelated once’
It’s not the oil of the day that they’re trying to stop burning but the oil of the many years to come.
Making the activity of driving as inconvenient as possible is the goal and will work.
Change and growth as a society is never easy and never will be.
Shitheads will be shitheads, what else is new?
Self-report or…?
If you don’t think this is the behavior of shitheads, I’m very glad to not make your acquaintance.
I understand why they are doing this and I support them. So, no. I do not think they’re shitheads. Only the people who sit in their warm home, in their comfort zone, going with the flow, calling other people shitheads.
It must be nice to be so naive and idealistic still, it’s cute. You go right ahead thinking that then, sport. :3
