Cars are a ‘privacy nightmare on wheels’. Here’s how they get away with collecting and sharing your data::Cars with internet-connected features are fast becoming all-seeing data-harvesting machines—a so-called “privacy nightmare on wheels,” according to US-based research conducted by the Mozilla Foundation.

  • @SuckMyWang
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    581 year ago

    I read at Tesla employees were sending memes around around their offices with photos from inside owners garages that were compromising or amusing.

  • @snekerpimp
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    261 year ago

    Wonder if you disabled cellular on these cars, take away its ability to call home, if the car would still be usable, or would it just brick itself?

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      • @snekerpimp
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        271 year ago

        America is a corporatocracy, with automotive as a major player, there will be no help from the government on this.

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          • @snekerpimp
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            These are not Apache helicopters. These are designed and manufactured on a shoestring budget. They don’t have time or money for any redundancy, and there is no current policy in place that I know of that mandates redundancy of by-wire systems.

        • @snekerpimp
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          51 year ago

          I’m curious what electronic throttle’s redundancy is? I have been in automotive parts and repair almost 15 years, and drive by wire has no redundancy. If that module goes bad, or connection corrodes, you are dead in the water. Braking has always been hydraulic based but with electric actuators for ABS, so I kinda see your point of redundancy there. Steering has to be mechanical, but Lexus and Mercedes have been chipping away at that for a decade, and they are asking for no mechanical fallback, as it would hurt the user experience.

          • @CADmonkey
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            21 year ago

            Less of a “backup” and more of a “fail closed” system, from what I’ve seen. The throttle will at least have the decency to drop to idle when it stops working as opposed to staying at it’s last position.

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      • @snekerpimp
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        See, even if you cut the antenna, the transmitter is still there putting out a signal. Once you get close enough to a tower, in the right conditions, signal could get out, dumping any data stored. Disabling it by removing the SIM or the transmitter would be the best way to go, though I’m sure most are eSIM.

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          • @snekerpimp
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            51 year ago

            There are ways around hardware and software locks unofficially. I’m sure as soon as the same people that hack 3d printers get their hands on these in the second and third hand market the ways of spoofing or disabling the monitoring and feature locks will be many. Feel sorry for the rich idiot that pays monthly for his heated seats and wonders why he gets targeted ads.

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      Varies widely, sometimes you can call in and opt-out, boom done. It will naturally take the cellular features like hotspot, app stuff with it. It will be very make/model specific. You can do it on Toyota’s by pulling a fuse if calling don’t work and you only lose the microphone.

  • @BeatTakeshi
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    141 year ago

    I have 2 questions: I suppose there isn’t a jailbreaking scene for cars due to potential security/insurance concerns? (beyond unlocking infotainment features) and 2: are any manufacturers using open source software for their systems?

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      They’re all built on an open source base, but everything they add is proprietary

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      1: there is, but at this point its pretty niche and scattered. Lots of its hush-hush due to like you said potential security/insurance concerns. Mostly used for cracking and getting system/diagnostics readouts and error codes, Fob cloning, etc. without forking out cash to do so through the so called “proper channels”.

      2: not that I’ve seen, and from they software they do use it seems mainly in house additions.

      Though im not super into the scene, and i see it growing rapidly over the next few years seeing manufacturers keep doing some scummy shit to lock down their products.

      Edit: fat fingered post before i finished typing it out oops.

  • @[email protected]
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    131 year ago

    Countering this is very make-specific and you can have options ranging from calling in (opt-out) to pulling fuses to messing with dash wiring.

    Make/Vehicle-specific forums will likely be a good resource to start with but naturally you’ll have to deal with the “you have phone, lul” defeatist idiots anywhere.

    Considerations include age (Models with 3G radios are disconnected anyway most likely), trim (maybe only certain trim levels got a cellular radio), and features. (Hotspot, OnStar, an SOS button indicate the presence of such a telematics system)

  • SpaceBar
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    111 year ago

    Honest question. I feel like I’ve seen this same story 5 times already… is it being reposted a lot?

    • paraphrand
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      31 year ago

      This was gonna be my comment.

  • @Poe
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    91 year ago

    I suppose that’s one thing my 2008 shitbox has going for it… Seems like every product is moving towards the advertising mindset