• Ech
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    1418 months ago

    5.0.1: Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack other groups of people. Every one of our users has a right to browse and interact with the website and all of its contents free of treatment such as harassment, bullying, violation of privacy or threats of violence.

    • MrMusAddict
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      618 months ago

      In my opinion this is actually better than the CoC. The only thing “missing” is the definition of which qualities you shouldn’t discriminate against. But that’s now generalized into “groups of people”.

      I still can’t discriminate against people based on any qualification. Hell, I technically can’t discriminate against “pineapple on pizza eaters”.

      • Dharma Curious
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        478 months ago

        Good. Because it’s fucking delicious and I don’t care what the internet says. We all loved it in the 90s, and nothing has changed. It’s still delicious, we just do less coke now.

        • TinyPizza
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          118 months ago

          Obligatory pizza related chime in. You fuck with jalapenos on that sexy pineapple pizza?

          • MrScottyTay
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            47 months ago

            Pineapple pairs the best with spicy pizzas, I always add it as an extra.

            • TinyPizza
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              Jalapenos with the pineapple is so stupidly good. You get bacon on there and then it’s like the crossroads of heavenly flavors. It’s not a pizza for the meek.

              It’s a five gallon hat wearing, tambourine hand flailin, tastebuds up the wall wailin, genuine taste sensation!

                • TinyPizza
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                  That a spicy one for sure. What’s the combo then? I need to know what else to pair with that sweet ol pineapple.

              • Dharma Curious
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                It’s so fucking good, but I’m more of a ham than bacon person. Bacon is too hard for my poor, American, no dental insurance havin’ teeth. Lol.

                • TinyPizza
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                  Hmm, does that mean you’re also going soft not crispy pizza?

        • Billiam
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          68 months ago

          You heretic! I want you to know that if I could discriminate against you for putting pineapple on pizza, I absolutely would!

          • @tpihkal
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            17 months ago

            I respect their right to put pineapple pizza, but I’ll be damned if our pizzas are going to touch.

          • Shazbot
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            They are wonderful people. Especially when they tear off the crust so I can eat it.

      • XillyA
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        168 months ago

        I love some pineapple pizza!

      • TWeaK
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        78 months ago

        By my reading of it, you can still discriminate against pineapple pizza eaters, or any other group whatsoever, you just can’t harass, bully, violate their privacy or threaten them with violence. Which is fine by me, if someone wants to make a community only for ginger haired people and ban anyone they think isn’t naturally ginger, that’s their perogative.

        • AFK BRB Chocolate
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          That was my takeaway, too, and I think it’s positive. The nice thing is, if it turns out that the policy fosters behavior that’s bad for the broader community, they can change it.

            • AFK BRB Chocolate
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              68 months ago

              Some people have given you guys a lot of flack, but I really think you’re making a thoughtful, good faith effort to do things right, and I think you’re doing well. There have been a couple things that I thought were the wrong decision, but (1) they’ve been relatively minor, and (2) they’ve been reasonable even if I might have chosen differently. I very much appreciate the thought that goes into running this place.

      • snooggums
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        As it is worded you can’t discriminate against nazis and racists either.

        • @[email protected]
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          58 months ago

          You can discriminate all you want, you just can’t harass, bully, violate privacy or threaten violence.

        • @[email protected]
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          48 months ago

          I think you can’t read it too literally. Otherwise you also can’t discriminate against “people who wrote their comment later” and so you can never stop reading the comments for fear of discriminating between “early comment writers” and “late comment writers”.

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            Literal is the only way these things are supposed to be read.

            They could easily fix it by saying “groups (except for those that promote discrimination and/or hate such as nazis and racists)”

        • MrMusAddict
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          I just replied this to another commenter, but that’s a bad faith argument. The ToS also says to not engage in illegal activity. The admonishment of Nazi’s and Racists is an admonishment of illegal evil.

          • @[email protected]
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            88 months ago

            Being a Nazi is not illegal in most jurisdictions. It certainly wasn’t illegal in Nazi Germany.

      • @[email protected]
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        Nazis are a group of people. Republicans are a group of people. Pedophiles are a group of people.

        • MrMusAddict
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          That’s a bad faith argument. The ToS also says to not engage in illegal activity. The admonishment of Nazi’s and Pedophiles is an admonishment of illegal evil.

          Your inclusion of Republicans is a bit of an extreme juxtaposition. Feel free to admonish the individual evil views of Republicans, but to discriminate against Republicans purely for their association is rightly against ToS.

        • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏
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          We could do this for any group of people we don’t like IMO… Doesn’t make it right, regardless of how disgusting their actions may be ☹️

      • Leperhero
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        Kebab meat and pineapple, thin crust. I will fight to the death for that

    • @[email protected]
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      58 months ago

      Need some context here: is this what we removed, something that’s already somewhere else, a proposed replacement, or something else?

      • stankmut
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        108 months ago

        That paragraph is part of the new terms and conditions document they released.

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    OP completely ignoring 5.0.1

  • qaz
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    Have you asked the admins/mods of lemmy.world about this before posting this?

  • krolden
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    The worst part about lemmy world is that all the tech discussions seemed to have moved there. Granted a lot of them are people who dont RTFM but still its not a good consolidation of discussion.

    • HEISENBERG
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      Oh yes, Kbin is a nice Lemmy UI

      🫠

      • glennglog22
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        I mean, it may not look as sleek, but it feels more familiar to me as a snoo refugee. Plus the particular instance I’m on seems to be relatively drama free.

  • @HardlightCerealOP
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    The new rules also say you’re not allowed to report content for things that aren’t a violation of the terms of service. So if you report a content for being racist, that’s against the rules.

    • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏
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      Unless they changed it - the last time I checked there was an exception for posts violating community rules, so communities who want to exempt themselves can just add a rule IMO

      From my perspective, communities in general instantly remove racist content once reported, and most racial slurs in these contexts are used as a personal attack towards another individual.

      🔥HOT TAKE: There are contexts where racial slurs could be used without bad intentions, such as in a car visual customization community, or in a community with people of colour referencing each other. These slurs are especially used among younger age groups in a casual manner, who may not consider such terms offensive at their current point in life. Of course, such communities can just ban these terms outright with a new rule.

      Unless i’m missing something, I don’t see the problem with this

    • HEISENBERG
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      My fault guys, he is using one of my cooking bowls for his cereal