but… biden signed more oil drilling contracts than trump did.
can it survive another bullshit neolib puppet? we need progressives, not corporate lib shills.
DISCLAIMER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DON’T UNDERSTAND YOU CAN AND SHOULD CRITICIZE YOUR OWN PARTY WITHOUT SUPPORTING THE OTHER: I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN.
wow very democratic that you cant criticize the other party without seeming like an enemy of your own
we live in good times indeed
Your name and comment are deeply ironic, given the Stalin purges
As someone who isn’t from that country, the climate can’t survive more USA, who’s running it doesn’t seem to make much difference.
(Not that they’re the only country causing this global disaster of course, just the one highlighted in this post)
From another outsiders perspective the difference seems to be that the Democrats invest in green technologies, whereas the Republicans do not. Both support fossil fuels thou.
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Can’t survive another Biden term either. It’s the planet or capitalism and the people in charge would rather kill us all than end capitalism.
What he’s been able to do has been limited by the most conservative Democrat whose vote was needed to pass legislation.
Get a better congress along with a Biden reelection, and it puts us into the we-stand-a-chance range
the only thing that will change is more rigged-to-fail ‘attempts’ to look like theyre trying
america isn’t on a path to fix things, anyone who says otherwise is completely delusional
Correct me if I’m wrong but their military is a huge polluter, and I don’t see that as being something either side would change due to the politics around fucking with the military, so it’s even more of a problem on top of the already massive problem that is capitalism
Biden has started going down the road of electricifying the military. But of course, slimming down the military is the kind of holy cow neither mainstream party would touch. We are seeing a quasi-worldwide military push anyway, which is unsurprising in the wider context of missing global climate action.
I was referring to burn pits that I’ve vaguely heard of, feel like they’d still be a pretty large problem
There’s more important issues than burn pits tbh:
The Department of Defense uses 4,600,000,000 US gallons (1.7×1010 L) of fuel annually, an average of 12,600,000 US gallons (48,000,000 L) of fuel per day. A large Army division may use about 6,000 US gallons (23,000 L) per day. According to the 2005 CIA World Factbook, if it were a country, the DoD would rank 34th in the world in average daily oil use, coming in just behind Iraq and just ahead of Sweden.
The climate is just not going to survive period. Democrats also don’t have the will to do anything on this topic.
The climate will be fine, we however, are fucked.
Humans survive better than most animals. What do you think the world will look like if not even the apex species will survive?
I don’t think anyone questions that humans will survive. It’s just unlikely that the complex global supply chain that gives us complex tools like microchips etc will survive. And may be massive famine etc after just a few harvest failure, or after the grain can’t go down the rivers to the sea any more. Naturally not for the very rich, you can probably buy a bag of rice at a price. It’s not survival that’s at stake, its civilization and all that.
I’m sure some bacteria and virus will survive the Venus like conditions for a short while
Earth will be fine, it’s a giant rock. The climate and anything alive is fucked
My fellow Americans, Tuesday is an election day. Get off your asses and vote. I will be making a post Tuesday.
no actually, i wont
ill even register to vote again, then choose not to
and ill do it with a wide smile
The satisfaction of… *checks notes* fucking over yourself?
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Maybe there are multiple branches of government making decisions and not only the white house cabinet, it’s kind of hard for anyone to get legislation through two chambers of congress when you’re effectively a minority in both. Which happens when they don’t get enough votes.
So yeah. Fucking yourself over.
That’s even without mentioning how republican rule makes things even worse. For everyone, but especially women and minorities.
im a trans woman, i kinda fucking know this. Im just not going to put faith in the US government, who is very well know for explicitly working against every minority on the planet to further its own interests. Fuck that. Did you really think we vote away facism? You really think we live in a fucking democracy because we get to vote every two years?
So yeah I guess im fucking myself over by living in your shitty white settler regime, thanks for changing fuck all.
you want a vote, how about democrats do something besides being blue republicans?
America is a one party state, but in typical american extravagance they have two of them.
im a trans woman, i kinda fucking know this. Im just not going to put faith in the US government
Are your state legislators or governor on the ballot? They are the ones that are chipping away at rights.
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Did you really think we vote away facism? You really think we live in a fucking democracy because we get to vote every two years?
While voting rights are eroding and distribution of power is a problem, do you really think this is what a dictatorship looks like?
living in your shitty white settler regime
I’m not American, nor do I live in the US.
While voting rights are eroding and distribution of power is a problem, do you really think that’s what a dictatorship looks like?
so you really actually think we are. You live in a lie, how do you not see how corrupt it is. Lobbying is literally legalized bribery that isn’t a fucking democracy.
even a harvard study says we are a plutocracy, not any republic or democracy
I’m not American, nor do I live in the US.
applies to all of europe besides ireland, yall Euros are smug in your ‘superiority’ but are nothing but US doggs sniffing its ass as ya follow along
I lost abortion under biden, where is the oh so heroic dems when we need that back.
Abortion was last due to Trump’s THREE SCOTUS picks.
One of the reasons, if not the reason the GOP wins is they show up.
Speaking of Biden, it isn’t a presidential election. More than likely you’re going to have loads of local offices. These offices decide things like zoning, which makes a big difference for quality of life and the environment.
What’s your objective? Are you trying to dissuade people from voting or something? Again, if people actually showed up, the GOP would not hold many offices anywhere.
Abortion was last due to Trump’s THREE SCOTUS picks.
and the entire democrat government could just do nothing about it. I wonder why breaking the rules for greed is fine until shit like this happens and then suddenly they all care about procedure and dont do shit.
One of the reasons, if not the reason the GOP wins is they show up.
OK i don’t care, MAGA or dem you’re still the American Empire. Fuck this place.
What’s your objective? Are you trying to dissuade people from voting or something? Again, if people actually showed up, the GOP would not hold many offices anywhere.
vote blue no matter who is just the dem’s MAGA. No i will not vote for genocide, fuck off you prick.
The climate will be just fine (give or take a few tens of thousands of years). It’s us and all complex organisms above a certain size that are fucked.
Can’t make any assumptions one way or another. We’re dealing with positive feedback loops, so even if humans all get Thanos-snapped out of existence RIGHT NOW putting a full stop to emissions, pollution, etc, the environment will continue to worsen on its own because of the downward spirals we’ve set into motion.
The question is how long those feedback loops can go until they’re broken naturally; or if they even can be broken naturally.
We may well have set our planet on a warming path that ends with it being molten, or one that sheds our atmosphere into space.
So… things might fix themselves after we go extinct; or it’ll get worse until even the most resilient of extremophiles can’t carry on, and Earth becomes another lifeless rock floating in space.
/shrug
That’s true. We couldve pulled a Venus, which would suck massive donkey balls.
This is the correct answer
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Most Americans actually support measures to deal with it:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-32412-y
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/poll-solar-wind-climate-change-rcna119244
We just have to get loud about it and demand officials at all levels act. We have to get loud and make polluting as acceptable as open racism.
MORE fear porn, Kbin? No thanks, I’ve had quite enough.
America is not the world. The rest of yall need to get off your fucking asses and do somethIng instead of letting America do it all for you.
you know the US is the biggest polluter in the world, right? in particular the US military.
China, the world’s biggest emitter of carbon dioxide, produces 12.7 billion metric tons of emissions annually. That dwarfs U.S. emissions, currently about 5.9 billion tons annually
What about China? Are you purposely ignoring China because you’re a tankie? I’m not saying the US is innocent but it seems like you’re not being entirely factual here about the biggest polluters.
Also, I wasn’t able to find the info all in one place but the figures I’m seeing about military carbon footprints are as follows between the two nations:
US: 59,000,000,000 tons
China: 95,000,000,000 tons
So, I obviously agree that the US has a carbon footprint problem but you seem to be putting most of the blame on the second largest offender and ignroing the first. A suspicious thing to do for anyone other than a tankie, looking to distort the truth.
Two obvious things: China has 2-3 x the people. Maybe adjust to a per person basis? Or a per GDP ratio if you are so inclined. Also, most of the stuff for sale comes from China - so we just moved our emissions there. This is super hard to adjust for, but should be considered a bit.
On your second point, I’m mainly referring to military carbon footprints.
I’ll do the GDP scaling when I’m not out and about unless you want to do it first.
Given where the piece was published, it was pretty clearly aimed at convincing Americans to act
