The Supreme Court on Thursday made it easier for employees to seek religious accommodations in a case involving a lawsuit brought by an evangelical Christian mail carrier who asked not to work on Sundays.

The case involved a claim brought by a Pennsylvania man, Gerald Groff, who says the U.S. Postal Service could have granted his request that he be spared Sunday shifts based on his religious belief that it is a day of worship and rest.

His case will now return to lower courts for further litigation.

  • @MisanthropicScott
    link
    English
    4
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    I actually agree with this decision. We can’t force people to leave religion. And, in a secular society, reasonable accommodations can be made. In New York, it has long been common for religious Jews to leave the office earlier on Fridays and not work Saturdays. My mother needed home health aides 24x7 toward the end of her life. The ones who worked Sunday were always Seventh Day Adventists.

    I don’t have a problem with this.

    As a tangent, I do have a problem with people taking jobs that are wholly or partly against their religion. So, for example, pharmacists who are not willing to fill all prescriptions should choose another line of work. If you don’t agree with birth control or medical abortions, don’t take birth control or have a medical abortion.

    But, if you’re not willing to fill a prescription for someone else, you need another job.

    Taken to extremes, I can imagine a pharmacist refusing to fill my insulin prescription because they believe in the power of crystals and want to sell me a lump of quartz. I know it’s reductio ad absurdum. But, is it really any different ethically?

    • @afraid_of_zombies2
      link
      English
      11 year ago

      I have a problem with this. This particular case reasonable accommodation wasn’t possible. He was hired on to work the weekends. This wasn’t him not able to go above and beyond this was him not willing to do what he was explicitly hired to do. If he had been hired to work mon-fri and didnt want to work Sundays that would be one thing, but he was hired specifically to work Sundays.

      I once had a coworker who was a diehard Christian we did a fair amount of weekend work. I took Sundays and it wasn’t a big deal and I never made it one because why should I? The thing is our normal shift was mon-fri.

  • @giantofthenorth
    link
    English
    31 year ago

    Good, if you sincerely hold a religious belief about not working on a specific day why should your workplace be able to ask you otherwise.

    • DancingPickle
      link
      English
      11 year ago

      Agreed - as long as what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. If I tell my boss that I sincerely, religiously believe that unless I have off every Wednesday, my energy will attract a meteor which will certainly destroy humanity, that has to be taken with equal reverence and accommodation as someone who believes that a sky fairy created the universe in a week and told him to rest.

      Nobody gets to determine who’s beliefs are more or less credible or sincerely held, so they all must be treated equally - and protected by law - with regards to workplace accommodations, or not at all.

      In my opinion.

    • Flying SquidOP
      link
      English
      11 year ago

      What if you convert to a different religion while being employed at the same job? What if you do it repeatedly? “Sorry, boss. I’m Jewish now. You can’t schedule me on Saturdays anymore.” Two weeks later. “Sorry, boss. I’m a Christian again. Can’t work Sundays.” How do you prove the employee isn’t sincere? How do you prove anyone isn’t sincere about their religious beliefs?

      • @giantofthenorth
        link
        English
        11 year ago

        Heres how it would work if you were claiming to be catholic, they’d go to whichever church you say you go to and ask the pastor there if you attend service ever, and likely check cameras depending on severity needed for this, if you go there for service that’s good enough proof.

        • Flying SquidOP
          link
          English
          11 year ago

          “Sorry, I’m not the kind of Jew who goes to temple. Prove I don’t sincerely hold the belief that I don’t have to work on Saturday anymore.”

      • @giantofthenorth
        link
        English
        11 year ago

        Heres how it would work if you were catholic, they’d go to whichever church you say you go to and ask the pastor there if you attend service ever, and likely check cameras depending on severity needed for this, if you go there for service that’s good enough proof.

      • @afraid_of_zombies2
        link
        English
        11 year ago

        In practice I have heard if it gets to the court level they might demand evidence that you have converted.

  • Mitchacho74
    link
    English
    21 year ago

    Oh great. Just giving religious people more power, if I worked with this man, I’d be claiming I need Sundays off too “due to my religion” when in reality I’d just be getting a guaranteed day off. Obviously that won’t end well if abunch of people do it so idk why they’re humouring this one guy

    • @onionbaggage
      link
      English
      51 year ago

      Mail isn’t delivered on Sundays anyway. The only reason they’d be in is for an Amazon package contract. It’s a bullshit understaffing problem. No full time carrier should be working a Sunday unless someone in management fucked up.