I have been thinking which of the two should i use. If i understand fully i can still browse lemmy instances on kbin. And i can even check out mastodon users on it.
If this is the case, why would anyone choose lemmy instead of kbin? I assume there must be another aspects i don’t know of?
I went with Lemmy because:
- Rust is the faster and more modern language.
- Lemmy had more instances when I joined - I was concerned about spreading the load over multiple instances
- It was much easier to set up and maintain a new instance via an Ansible script
- The structure, look and feel and language felt more comfortable
At this point, I’d also include how much more mature the Lemmy codebase is, for example that the api is fully accessible.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Kbin. You choose whatever works for you and we can all enjoy the Fediverse together.
For me there are 3 reasons for choosing Lemmy over Kbin.
- Kbin has karma system.
- Kbin is based on PHP.
- Comments on Kbin magazines when using
copy url to fediverseare not public, but locked behind login.
Why do you count PHP as a point against Kbin?
He’s probably had to work with php in the past and holds a grudge. I certainly do
I do not want to touch a single line of code in PHP. Even brainfuck is more attractive than PHP
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Have you used PHP 7+ before? It’s surprisingly ergonomic, much more so than earlier versions.
There’s some debate in regards to PHP being an insecure language. Might have to do with the fact that over 65% of all websites run PHP (WordPress), and there have been a string of high-profile vulnerabilities in the news in recent years. Not making a claim either way, but could be why it was listed as a negative.
PHP is as secure as it’s developer makes it. There are excellent frameworks out there that make security simple. And then, there is WordPress.
Historically, it’s been known for its security issues and vulnerabilitities.
Lemmy also has a Karma system I think, on Memmy I can see my karma on the account tab
Lemmy is much better for developer/admins. There is currently 10+ Lemmy apps in the works and 2 apps that supports both Lemmy and K.bin this is because K.bin doesn’t have a proper API documentation yet. Lemmy also has a better documentation for running your own instance and uses way less resources. Most of the Lemmy’s advantages are technical ones but it translates to user facing ones with more apps, more responsive, has more users and can scale better
Which apps support both kbin an lenny
Artemis is one of them but it is in a closed alpha right now afaik
I’m also confused. I joined lemmy instance, but I can browse kbin.social. I didn’t even realize that kbin was anything different than one more lemmy instance.
I made an account in both and installed their websites as pwas on my phone. For lemmy (on lemmy.world) there is a bug/feature that constantly loads new shit no matter the sorting which at first made it unusable for me.
This is supposed to be gone in 18.1 though but lemmy.world has issues upadating.
Kbin PWA does not respect orientation lock which also really grinds my gears.
So today I started looking into apps. Currently on wefwef PWA and its the best experience so far but needs more interface customisation eg thumbs on the right so I can properly take a wank and browse with one hand.
Another vouch for wefwef. I’ve been trying it since yesterday and it’s really good and fast.
Regarding kbin, the main problem that I see is that it isn’t transparent about in which server a community (aka magazine), so there are lots of kbin self posts that actually are in other servers (like lemmy.world). Thats a problem when you’re trying to understand how this fediverse thing actually works.
I’ve subscribed to many kbin groups from lemmy so far. I think your good either way. Not too sure about the apps.
Either are good. I found Lemmy.world more intuitive right off the bat, compared to KBin.social, from the browser on mobile (iPhone). Once I figured on how to turn on some accessibility settings on KBin (basically labels for all the things), I began enjoying KBin a lot more. KBin has more options for customization, and Lemmy is intuitive but doesn’t have that customization yet. Both still have a lot of development needed. Im probably going to stick with Lemmy for a bit because even with the customization that KBin offers, Lemmy is still easier for me to use, because I’m already used to Lemmy now
Are there any good apps for kbin yet? I’ve been using memmy and wefwef for Lemmy so far.
No. They lack API apps could use.
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In the end it probably also comes down to two things: personal preference of design/look and how active the community is on each plattform. I for example stopped using kbin cause here are far more users and I like the look and feel of Lemmy more. Also there are a few good apps to help me completely stay off reddit.
That works both ways. I’m on lemmy and can browse kbin instances fine.
But i cant really use it to check the mastodon users. right?
Lemmy doesn’t follow mastodon, as far as I know. I like it that way. I was not a fan of mastodon. I made accounts on kbin, Lemmy, and mastodon during the blackout, and Lemmy is the only one I’m still using. I heard of a similar-to-mastodon place called Squabbles, which is NOT part of the fediverse, and I love it there.
Yes you can folow mastodon users in kbin.
I mostly use mobile for fediverse browsing and I’ve found the experience on the mobile apps to be better than the mobile browser for kbin.
That was what made me choose lemmy over kbin. But I still have a kbin account. And I’ve subscribed to all the kbin magazines on lemmy… So… It’s not like it matters a whole lot.
Whatever you like browsing more. Kbin is great and so is lemmy.
I think the Mastadon integration is cool, and I like the feel of the UI, but Kbin terminology is just confusing, and at a practical level, just doesn’t work as reliably as Lemmy. Kbin needs to take a step back and reframe itself as an alternative Lemmy platform instead of a Lemmy replacement. And it needs to fix its federation code so it can drop the warning on every federated community.
Use whatever you like. We interact with each other.
I started with accounts on both and found myself liking Lemmy better. I actually haven’t been on kbin in days.
As a self-hoster, I attempted installs of both. They both had somewhat broken installation guides for Docker installs. Spent a night failing to get kbin running and pivoted and for Lemmy working in a couple of hours. Wish I had some big fancy reason, but kbin was just shortly more of a pain to sort.
