At first glance it reminds me of a 1990s video game where they don’t have the polygons and the graphic card horse power to display what a Pontiac Aztek would look like.
Graphic cards have met a hard limit, and we now have to reduce the visuals of reality to make games look more realistic.
Hey, you support Elon, you get what you deserve.
Play stupid Elon games win stupid Elon prizes!
That’s a very ugly vehicle…
I think it’s beautiful as an art piece. A perfect testament to a rich manchild’s inability to be told “no”.
And now people get to drive around in this embodiment of hubris.
I respect how provocative it is because that’s a very hard thing to try for intentionally. As a concept car it absolutely works.
Wait was it really 100k I thought the whole idea was it was super cheap to produce and buy because flat metal plates are way easier to manufacture
Because everyone knows 90% of the manufacturing cost of a car is bending the bodywork panels.
Got me on that one ahah
One of Musks pitches for selling the car at 40k was that bending the steel panels is cheaper then making curved and painted ones.
Of course, the cars lowest trim is 60k because Musk is a liar, but that was part of the hype he was selling.
It’s a special alloy and it turns out it doesn’t like to make big flat parts, or something like that.
Yea I started watching the MKBHD video on it and turned it off at the part where he was kinda justifying how sophisticated the metal pressing process had to be because it has some elasticity or something and was hard to get consistent … the upshot of which was, as MKBHD admitted, that the panels were inconsistent and you were going to get random gaps in the plating. He kinda showed some examples, and to me, even over YouTube, it just felt cheap and I no longer understood how someone could feel ok spending the money.
Because Elon is a god king genius emerald boy who can do no wrong and you’d be a fool to ever doubt his perfection. It would be an honor to go into crippling debt to support him.
The original idea, as I understand it, was that it would be made of the same stainless alloy that SpaceX was developing for Starship. This steel was too hard to form using stamping, as the tools used would wear down much faster. So, they had to limit themselves to bending the sheet metal with a press brake, which really can’t do compound curves, hence the need for straight lines. Whether any of this was ever the real reason I have no idea, but one tidbit is that for Starship, they were using 304L (same mixture as some of my pans) and may never have switched to their own alloy. So, the design may at one point have been necessary for practical considerations, but that may have been mooted without bothering to change the design.
Most metals don’t. That’s why cars have curves in the body work.
The woes of trying to make a strong 2D shape in a 3D world.
The exoskeleton design didn’t work, so they did the traditional frame with the fancy paneling on top, negating the potential cost savings actually making it more expensive.
Just think how much more expensive it would be.
This is the largest battery, three motor version of the vehicle, the performance model.
The smaller battery/single motor version will be cheaper, it will also be the last one produced
“'last one produced” meaning never produced in elon world.
It’s bait to get bros interested and impatient so they eventually cave and leap on one of the other models. Also, if they miraculously did get to the “cheap one” by the time that would happen, they’d raise cost of all models by $20k so it’s still the cheapest or some other similar bullshit.
I honestly thought that at launch they would drop away the metal panels to reveal a kickass vehicle underneath.
Nope. That’s actually the thing.
lolwtf
I love taking the wind out of Elon’s sails because he is just a horrible and cringe person to an extreme degree, but I personally like the cybertruck aesthetically. It definitely different from anything we have seen in a truck, and I’m all for it. It’s also basically a concept car that is somehow actually making it to market, and if it motivates the bigger auto makers to take more chances with their designs and ideas, I think it’s great.
That said, its so ludicrously expensive, and so impractical/not advisable for all the reasons I would personally use a truck, because it’s basically an SUV with a bed. It’s like a Chevy Avalanche/Honda Ridgeline mashup. This thing is the ultimate pavement princess. If there’s one thing I wouldn’t be an early adopter for, it’s something thats whole purpose is to get beat the fuck up.
It really does just look like a Lamborghini you’d get on an N64 if you didn’t have the expansion pack.
I really can’t fathom anyone seriously thinking this is good aesthetically without assuming they have a serious bias affecting their judgement in form of payment, cognitive deficiency, misplaced Musk sympathy, or otherwise.
Other auto makers are doing just fine with their designs overall, we don’t need to include children’s scribbles of a car when talking about where car designs should be headed.
I can’t really fathom that anyone seriously thinks that aesthetic preferences are uniform across all people without biases similar to what you listed.
All those SUVs designs sure are strikingly different.
There’s aesthetic differences stemming from simple original taste, then there’s differences stemming from being on the challenged side of the bell curve. Like smearing poop on a wall and trying to call it art.
Nice straw-man example at the end, there.
Show me on the cybertruck where Elon touched you.
On the entire cybertruck
I personally like the cybertruck aesthetically
I can understand liking the idea of the cyber truck but its aesthetic is so different from convention that I think people need to see it in person to decide if they like it.
There are so many things in it that are different in ways that might be better it is hard for me to imagine it selling well.
they also might be mediocre, or much worse. Given Tesla’s record of bad/rushed design and manufacturing processes (see: bad panel alignment; bad chassis engineering; janky bandaid fixes like random hardware store supplies making it into their cars; failed and costly manufacturing automation mistakes; etc.),
And Musk’s record of using the same trick of dangling a new gimmick to fix cash flow over and over (make wild new promise to create hype, while not delivering on the old ones, see: hyperloop, full self-driving feature, etc)
And how he’s been steadily going off the deep end for years (gestures generally)
I don’t really have hope that this isn’t the ludicrous gimmick it stinks of.
Don’t forget that you can’t haul much because the dumbass designers sloped the walls of your bed. You have plenty of room for friends though, if you could make any.
Wasn’t sure what your meant…
Bottom is release version
That’s about the level of craftsmanship I expect to see in a wheelbarrow from Harbor Freight.
I’m not sure. Their wheelbarrows are probably going to last longer and haul more than a CyberTruck.
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The vast majority of pickups don’t have sloped bed walls. The only other one I can think of is the Chevy Avalanche, and they aren’t sloped the whole way to the tailgate, only part way.
I would personally bet a full paycheck that in two years, most of these trucks have hauled no more than like a few pieces of furniture, a couple 2x4s, and maybe some bags of potting soil or mulch.
Definitely justifies daily driving a 7000lb, bullet proof, pedestrian slicer.
No sane industrial or construction operator is buying a Cybertruck. They’d probably get the base model F150 Lightning or something if they wanted electric, you know, like they’ve already been doing.
There’s also the Hyundai Santa Cruz. It’s a similarly ugly truck that screams “I want a car that’s also tall”
I mean to be fair most pickup trucks and SUVs are fugly too, just not quite this bad.
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Fuck my ridgeline feels big!
I actually thought it would look cool at least since it’s wildly different. That’s just plain genuinely ugly.
It looks like something the top gear guys would have made for a laugh before dropping it into the sea
True tho. In some episodes they just solder random panes of metal together for a joke and those look better. Id rather drive the two sided car than this.
I still think it looks really cool, but I’m still in favour of more accessible public transportation eating away at the space cars have taken from us.
Also I will never ever buy a Tesla, for wide ranging variety of other reasons.
It’s like driving a doorstop in reverse.
Similar concept to the discrepancy in the pictures of food in a restaurant menu vs what you’re actually served.
Plus you can’t leave it parked anywhere. Anyone who sees it will want to recreate the famous steel ball test. Dude will spend a fortune at the tesla dealership getting his “bulletproof” windows replaced every week.
Honestly this just seems like the best way to have both sides of the relevant conversation hate you. The urbanists will hate you because you bought a Cybertruck which exemplifies all the problems with large cars in urban areas and car dependency in general, not to mention techbro dependency. And the truck people will hate you because you bought a liberal socialist soy boy electric truck instead of a noble, God-anointed, by your bootstraps diesel truck.
Wouldn’t be surprised if someone comes back to the parking lot to see a line of alternating rednecks and railfans all taking turns keying their truck.
It’s definitely going to be very popular with some
crewsgroups…
They’re $100K in debt for a fridge.
LPT: Don’t buy anything chasing after happiness.
I bought a house with an extraordinarily beautiful view. And I can say without a doubt it’s definitely made me a happier person.
Years later, and still enjoy that view as much as I did the first day I moved in.
Really not what I meant. I mean you don’t chase after happiness with purchases. You know how like people chase after happiness with alcohol, drugs, etc. These things won’t make you happy, you have to find happiness in life at a more fundamental level.
Ughh it just looks like a fridge with wheels
Most fridges do have wheels, especially the large ones.
Fridges also don’t crush people all that often.
Did you know?
According to the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), there are around 20-30 fatal accidents related to refrigerators in the United States each year.The majority of these accidents involve children under the age of 5 who become trapped inside the refrigerator or freezer.
Tip-over incidents are one of the leading causes of refrigerator-related fatalities, accounting for about 70% of the cases. (Source).
Now you know!
But if we don’t have fridges, all we will have is warm soda and no one likes that.
Yeah, but how do you feel that 20-30 people must die per year so you have a cool soda?
I’m okay with it, to be honest. If you piss off your fridge so much that it kills you, you probably had it coming.
Scope the user name friend
So you want to murder him too? How can you sleep at night?
Except @WarmSoda of course.
It is not as if the warm soda cupboard can’t tip over on top of you too.
@warmsoda Are you trying to kill us with your cupboard?
And I would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for you damned lemmings!
You mean your fridge doesn’t have auto pilot??
Doesn’t that put them on par with Tesla’s?
I have wheels, Greg… Can you milk me?
“I HAVE A MANGINA! I’M OLD GREEEEGGG!!!”
[Puts on stupid, ugly, expensive sunglasses at night]
🎶 “Reluctantly (chuckled at by teens), at the starting line…” 🎶
Pointing, and laughing and cringing inside
The green light flashes, the jig is up
Buyers. Remorse. A divorce creeping up.
The son chose the mom, and they both moved out,
He stormed off to Hooters, drank til he passed out,
He’s now home yelling, and crying, snot lining his face, the light of a Twitter feed in an emp-ty, place…
Cuz he’s going to post now, he’s going in-cel, he’s all alone, ALL ALONE, and he’s buying what the nazis sell…
Because he’s racing and pacing and fuming on X
He’s fighting and biting and really bad at sex
He’s going the distance, he’s smoking some weed
His pillow wife (pillow-wife) is all he neeeeds
…
No trophy, no flowers, no flashbulb, no spine
He’s haunted by decisions he cannot untwine
Bank-account shaking earthquakes of APRs and remorse
Assail him, impale him with cybertruck force
…
In his mind he’s still driving, still dunking on libs
She’s hoping in time that her memories will fade
'Cause he’s wasting his paycheck on onlyfans whores
He’s fighting, promoting, defending Musk of course
*cries behind my Ray-Bans"
but, but, the only way to fill the void in my heart is to consooooooooom!
Coom
Why would anyone go into debt for something like this? If you can’t afford it, you should clearly not be buying something like this.
Other than that, it is largely foolish to consider other’s opinions on a lot of our actions.
News flash, easily over 50% of cars on the road are bought with borrowed money and therefore debt.
Even people that don’t need loans still do some sort of financing option for their credit score.
In our case, we were able to get a better rate from investing than the rate we’re getting charged on the car loan. It was “cheaper” to take the loan than to pay up front! This economy is nuts.
That’s great if you can guarantee you beat the interest rate of the car. But as you’ve said the economy is nuts and anything can happen 🤣
When borrowing rates are lower than investment returns borrowing just makes good financial sense.
I could pay off my home loan today, but at 2.5% interest why, when I can keep that money and leave it in a safe high return investment? I’d be losing 10s of thousands a year in returns for my retirement to save a few thousand in mortgage interest.
Same thing with cars.
Then again, I don’t even buy new cars. I just get a dependable used Japanese car and drive it until it dies at 300k miles.
Should someone tell him? Who is going to tell him?
Alright, I will do it. People make bad decisions.
It’s OK to go into debt over a depreciating asset if you can afford to default on the loan, and it substantially improves your ability to make money. Businesses do it all the time. If a sole trader could work better with the cybertruck for some reason(I’ve got nothing) and could borrow off their house as collateral, that’s a financially savvy business decision.
But a lot of people fall victim to predatory marketing. We need to recognize that it’s not just them being dumb, they were manipulated, tricked and lied to by a powerful machine.
Doesn’t look too bad in this light, it’s the even daylight where the idea of it doesn’t show. I think it’s ugly but can look cool in certain light like this, the top section bright and the lower shadowed. Should have been a concept car cause of obvious reasons producing it at scale.
Part of me respects a design that can be so provocative. It shows how people care about design, and reminds me how boring and “nothing” a lot of the objects we interact with on a daily basis are.
