• @[email protected]
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    I stopped using Google years ago. I started using Bing but had to stop that as it would divert me to MSN to sign in when clicking a link for a news article. Like a news article for The Independent or The Times or any other.

    I then started using DuckDuckGo which is powered by Bing, but found it wasn’t great at many searches.

    I now use Arc Search most of the time and click browse for me to get the information I want without the bullshit. Search is essentially dead due to greed.

    • @psycho_driver
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      116 months ago

      I’m finding SearXNG to be very good. It operates like dogpile used to but is actually functional and it pretty much entirely squelches product placement results. I actually have to manually go to google if I want to get product listings for something.

      • @[email protected]
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        56 months ago

        I used Qwant for a few days and then it popped up a modal dialog asking me to turn off my ad-blocker. Never used it again after that.

        • @Buffalox
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          16 months ago

          Funny I’ve never seen that, but I switch around from time to time. Because none are perfect unfortunately.

          • @vimdiesel
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            16 months ago

            kagi is the best but it will cost you $10 a month. It’s been worth it to me, but probably not to everyone.

            • @Buffalox
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              Interesting concept, but it’s a bit expensive IMO, considering the huge amount of “free” options.

              The pricing is only in USD without taxes. Listing the price excluding tax is illegal here (Denmark and I think the rest of EU), so apparently not a service meant for use outside USA.
              Ad free is not a problem for me, i use Firefox with µBlock Origin.

        • @Buffalox
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          Startpage uses outside search results, but should be very secure like DuckDuckGo, and better certified.
          Qwant is AFAIK more independent, and I like the layout better.

          Both give pretty good search results IMO, but are somewhat lacking in map/geographic searches. For instance searching “Angola” could result in a restaurant in London. Just as a hypothetical example.
          So I do use Google maps too.

        • @vimdiesel
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          26 months ago

          qwant = 95% bing results, startpage = 98% google results. They are slimmer. They don’t keep your search history or ip address. better for privacy but not much better for search results.

      • @vimdiesel
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        26 months ago

        qwant uses bing and is mostly a proxy for it. Startpage is a proxy for google. the only thing they really do is protect your privacy, they don’t give you better search results.

        • @Buffalox
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          16 months ago

          That’s a bit disappointing, I thought Qwant had their own search. I know startpage used Google originally, but I wasn’t sure if they still did.

          • @[email protected]
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            16 months ago

            Nope I tried it precisely when DDG was out and it was working… Images were not so those may have come from Bing… But regular searches were working

          • @vimdiesel
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            16 months ago

            it shouldn’t have been because they return google search results and not bing

    • @alyth
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      36 months ago

      this is the first i hear of Arc, is it available as an iOS app only?

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        Seems to only have an iOS app right now. There is a desktop version for Windows and MacOS Here.

        It is annoying that it wants to send you the download link by email though.

        Edit: Here is an example of how the results look when asking for opening times of a book store in my city.

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          26 months ago

          That looks clean, thanks for posting the screenshot!

          • @[email protected]
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            Anytime. This is what search should be. You shouldn’t have to click into links for such simple information.