• @Sanctus
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      105 months ago

      That is… haunting. We should probably do something as civilians with collective action, but their propaganda has made that really hard.

      • @givesomefucks
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        75 months ago

        Ignorance is bliss, but it doesn’t solve shit.

        Just mentioning that The Family isnt solely focused on republicans got me a down vote almost immediately.

        Before we can fix this, we have to get people to acknowledge the problem. Otherwise we never truly win, just lose less sometimes

        • @Sanctus
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          65 months ago

          Its one of those obstacles that appears insurmountable. They have all the money, influence, and power that they could ever ask for. What are we to do?

          • @givesomefucks
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            45 months ago

            For now everyone still gets one vote.

            It’s too late to get anything going for 2024, maybe even 2028.

            But at some point we really need someone outside the two parties while we still have one vote each. We can’t just keep blindly voting our “team” no matter what, especially when our “team” doesn’t represent us.

            It’s going to suck, and it’s going to be turbulent. But if we don’t do it, we’ll keep sliding right till there’s no more elections. I don’t think progressives are going to be able to take over the Dem party, I think there’s going to have to be an actual party split for a real solution.

            I just hope people start planning more than one election ahead before it’s too late.

            We’re fighting people that plan decades ahead. We’ll never win unless we do the same.

            • @[email protected]
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              55 months ago

              we really need someone outside the two parties

              I love when it comes around to this part of the cycle, right after “one party is cruel and the other is stupid” and before “but if we split the vote we could lose our right to vote”.

    • @CharlesDarwin
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      15 months ago

      And then there are nefarious groups like ALEC or COR (Coalition on Revival)…