• ObjectivityIncarnate
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    It is absolutely not different colloquially. Among the general population, if asked directly to refer to a trans person’s sex and gender, you’d be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone who’d actually describe a trans woman, for example, as a “female woman”–because that’s how the general population describes cis women.

    But in the majority of cases, it’s neither here nor there because the vast majority of people never really use the terms male/female at all, whether the subject is human or not–even their pets are typically considered “boys” or “girls”.

    For the above reason especially, it’s absolutely inappropriate to throw the “transphobe” label on the rare person who actually does use male/female, and correctly to boot.

    It’d be like calling someone a transphobe for saying “trans women can’t get ovarian cancer”, a statement that is inarguably 100% true.

    • @TotallynotJessica
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      Who tf calls cis women female women? I’m not gonna call trans women “male women” or trans men “female men.” Words are made up for convenience, so the idea that we don’t colloquially call transfems female is silly. Should we not refer to a group of men as all male because some of them are transmasc? Why single trans people out because of something we already don’t like about ourselves?

      • ObjectivityIncarnate
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        Who tf calls cis women female women?

        As I said, “if asked directly to refer to a trans person’s sex and gender”. I know that in general parlance no one describes anyone like that. Next time, try reading the entire sentence before reacting.

        Why single trans people out because of something we already don’t like about ourselves?

        The big irony of this sentence is that this post literally had nothing to do with trans people at all, but an outrage junkie just couldn’t resist getting offended over nothing, so they decided there was transphobia where there wasn’t.

        • @TotallynotJessica
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          Cis/trans already encapsulates that information my dear. The original comment was a joke, so the biggest irony is that you’re projecting your own outrage onto me.

          • ObjectivityIncarnate
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            The original comment was a joke

            copium

            you’re projecting your own outrage

            lmao, you’re not fooling anybody.

    • @A_Very_Big_FanM
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      https://www.reddit.com/r/MenAndFemales/

      Here’s an entire subreddit’s worth of evidence that they are colloquially different.

      And I’m pretty sure both the post and the comment you responded to are jokes. It’s not that deep.

        • @A_Very_Big_FanM
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          15 months ago

          “Evidence contrary to my claim makes me angry!! Go away!!” Redditor moment.

          • ObjectivityIncarnate
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            05 months ago

            Not evidence, cherry-picked anecdotes. The Redditor’s typical standard of evidence, sure, but not one that actually is valid.

            • @A_Very_Big_FanM
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              05 months ago

              The thousands of moments people used a word how you said they didn’t doesn’t count?

              Republican logic.

              • ObjectivityIncarnate
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                Versus the hundreds of millions of moments they didn’t, lol. You’re just like the people who think the rate of crime is always going up, because instead of looking at the actual statistics, they just go by the ‘thousands of moments’ they see in the 24 hour news cycle.

                Please acquaint yourself with what cherry picking is, before you scoff at being called out for doing it, while enthusiastically confirming you’re doing it, lol.

                P.S. “Republican logic”, lol, fucking hyperpartisan brainrot. Telling on yourself.

                • @A_Very_Big_FanM
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                  Versus the hundreds of millions of moments they didn’t, lol.

                  That’s correct, they’re used both ways. You don’t know what “colloquially” means.