The servers and cashiers obviously won’t pay the customers (and surely not out of their own personal funds). The idea is to make the system less efficient for the storerunners such that they have to change how they operate. More time wasted per customer = lower rate of sales and less work done per employee. Customers en masse turning their frustration with tip screens into an issue for a business should lead to the business doing away with the tip screens. Hell, maybe it would even be a catalyst to paying the workers a stable non-tipped wage.
So your idea is to cost them man hours by frustrating annoying, humiliating, or otherwise making uncomfortable someone who is making less than minimum wage?
Your plan is to ask a waitress to give you money while she’s making $4/hr, and has other tables to serve to make tips?
I was being polite before. Your idea is bad. Like really bad.
frustrating annoying, humiliating, or otherwise making uncomfortable someone
I’d be presenting them a screen with an equivalent offer to the screen that they have presented me. If tip solicitation makes people feel that way, then obviously the customers simply telling businesses as much isn’t changing the system. Through the employees’ voices, the storerunner can identify the tip screen as the root of the problem and remove it.
who is making less than minimum wage
Many, but not all, of businesses with tip screens are not minimum wage.
Your plan is to ask a waitress to give you money
I’m not asking a waitress. I’m asking someone whose job is to present a monitor. Their manager or corporate overlords can decide if they want to give me money for being such a good customer.
Yes, but how is that actionable? What can the average person do that they haven’t already been doing to try to induce that? That’s clearly the end goal, but you need a plan to actually execute it. If I was stuck on a desert island with finite resources and I asked you how to solve the problem of not being on the mainland, I’d need more direction than just “Duh, just get back on the mainland”.
Hey, I’m just a lurker on this discussion, but I’m going to assume you’re asking an honest question here and not sealioning. If you really want to take action, I’d recommend looking at changing policy at the local level. I believe California has recently passed a couple laws that do things like disallow mandatory gratuities for large groups, and increase minimum wage for service workers. So if you want action items:
easy: look up the specifics of those California laws, and look up similar laws across the country, and see if any of them could fly in your municipality or state. next time the politicians come calling, say: “what are you doing to implement [policy]?”
medium: if you don’t think any existing policies would solve the problem, then try to think of what policy would.
hard: instead of tipping, save up that cash, keep track of it. figure out what organizations in your region could help implement those policies, contact them directly, and tell those organizations that you’ve saved up money that you’re willing to donate to help implement better policies.
You’re being awfully condescending for someone who’s both naïve enough to consider the halfassery and broken promises of your typical “moderate” Democrat “have already been trying” and inconsiderate enough to want to change the system by coordinated inconveniencing of some of the already most harassed people.
Desert island or not, your “solution” makes it WORSE without accomplishing anything positive in return.
Yeah. Just stop going there and write a review somewhere people can see it letting them know why. Would be a lot easier than writing an app just to bother some underpaid barista.
This is like those boomers who yell at the customer service rep because they were asked to press 1 for Spanish.
The servers and cashiers obviously won’t pay the customers (and surely not out of their own personal funds). The idea is to make the system less efficient for the storerunners such that they have to change how they operate. More time wasted per customer = lower rate of sales and less work done per employee. Customers en masse turning their frustration with tip screens into an issue for a business should lead to the business doing away with the tip screens. Hell, maybe it would even be a catalyst to paying the workers a stable non-tipped wage.
So your idea is to cost them man hours by frustrating annoying, humiliating, or otherwise making uncomfortable someone who is making less than minimum wage?
Your plan is to ask a waitress to give you money while she’s making $4/hr, and has other tables to serve to make tips?
I was being polite before. Your idea is bad. Like really bad.
I’d be presenting them a screen with an equivalent offer to the screen that they have presented me. If tip solicitation makes people feel that way, then obviously the customers simply telling businesses as much isn’t changing the system. Through the employees’ voices, the storerunner can identify the tip screen as the root of the problem and remove it.
Many, but not all, of businesses with tip screens are not minimum wage.
I’m not asking a waitress. I’m asking someone whose job is to present a monitor. Their manager or corporate overlords can decide if they want to give me money for being such a good customer.
Ok, you got a solve?
Yes. The solution to your bad idea is to not implement it.
The solution to servers currently relying on tips is to raise their guaranteed wage to a living wage.
The solution for multi billion businesses soliciting tips for using a machine that replaced a worker? Burn it all to the ground.
Yes, but how is that actionable? What can the average person do that they haven’t already been doing to try to induce that? That’s clearly the end goal, but you need a plan to actually execute it. If I was stuck on a desert island with finite resources and I asked you how to solve the problem of not being on the mainland, I’d need more direction than just “Duh, just get back on the mainland”.
Hey, I’m just a lurker on this discussion, but I’m going to assume you’re asking an honest question here and not sealioning. If you really want to take action, I’d recommend looking at changing policy at the local level. I believe California has recently passed a couple laws that do things like disallow mandatory gratuities for large groups, and increase minimum wage for service workers. So if you want action items:
You’re being awfully condescending for someone who’s both naïve enough to consider the halfassery and broken promises of your typical “moderate” Democrat “have already been trying” and inconsiderate enough to want to change the system by coordinated inconveniencing of some of the already most harassed people.
Desert island or not, your “solution” makes it WORSE without accomplishing anything positive in return.
Yeah. Just stop going there and write a review somewhere people can see it letting them know why. Would be a lot easier than writing an app just to bother some underpaid barista.
This is like those boomers who yell at the customer service rep because they were asked to press 1 for Spanish.
All they’re gonna do is get mad at their employees for being slow.