I hate that this is the debate we’re having now
I also hate that I’m feeding into the NYT’s lazy and transparent attempt to undo their previous partisanship with new opposite partisanship like those two things cancel out and add up to journalism
But what the hell, if that’s where we’re at, this is a relevant data point about the landscape
Are you four years old?
Who has been the best president of your lifetime, tuna?
I completely missed that “Tuna” was involved with the actual username of this person you were talking to. I thought you were just being forthright and jocular with them. I like my version better.
Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.
You think Trump was better?
Some of the shills were swearing to me the other day that they were around in the 1990s and they and all their friends were super excited about how Bill Clinton balanced the federal budget, and then Obama was this big swing to the right, which Biden was a continuation of, like light-years to the right of the progressive sea change that Clinton had been…
My brother in Christ I was around activists in the 90s and the Obama years and I can promise you that that’s not how it played out. Depending on your age and how much you know about Biden’s economic accomplishments, Biden is either the best president the country has had in your lifetime or the second best. Full stop. For, I think, almost anyone who’s of an age to be realistically on Lemmy. The only way to make it any different than that is to go all the way back to JFK, and then still on top not to be aware of what’s been happening to income inequality in the last few years.
Clinton was an absolutely rubbish president. For all the shit I give Obama he was a far better president than Clinton - but, as someone born during HW’s presidency it is depressing that Biden is indeed the best president I’ve ever lived under.