• JayTreeman
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    202 months ago

    How is a state that’s largely funded by another state not a proxy for the bigger state? It’s not a Israel Iran proxy war. It’s a us Iran proxy war

    • @disguy_ovahea
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      2 months ago

      Iran has been supplying the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas with munitions, intel, and training to support attacks on Israel.

        • @kbotc
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          42 months ago

          … Israel will sink our ships if they find them inconvenient.

          • @Cocodapuf
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            82 months ago

            Perhaps, but they’d do it with missiles that we designed and gave them. – this is the problem.

          • @njm1314
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            12 months ago

            They absolutely will. On the other hand the Houthis attacked a Russian ship the other day so same I guess.

        • @disguy_ovahea
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          Israel is a sovereign nation. According to international law, they are held responsible for their actions. The same law does not apply to independent rebel groups, putting the responsibility on Iran.

          • @IndustryStandard
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            102 months ago

            If Israel can declare itself a sovereign nation on another peoples land there is no reason rebel groups cannot call themselves legitimate rulers. Anyone can call themselves anything.

            • @disguy_ovahea
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              There are criteria. It’s not simply self declared.

              International law defines sovereign states as having a permanent population, defined territory, a government not under another, and the capacity to interact with other states.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_state

                • @disguy_ovahea
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                  02 months ago

                  The Houthis are a Zaydi Shiite movement that has been fighting Yemen’s Sunni-majority government since 2004. They reside in Yemen, so they have no land, and they are governed by Yemen. Therefore they are a faction, not a nation.

                  • @Spiralvortexisalie
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                    32 months ago

                    I was referring to your requirements for being a state. Even in your explanation you state that they have no land, therefore no mailing address, so thats why they are not a nation.

              • sunzu
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                2 months ago

                Cute of you to site international law in favour of country that shits on international law after it got its UN approval.

                Gtfo

                • @disguy_ovahea
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                  You’re heavily projecting. I’m not defending Israel, nor do I support what they’ve done to Palestinians. I’m sharing cited factual information about the legal difference between a group, nation, and country. My opinion didn’t even enter the conversation until you incorrectly assumed what it was.

                  • sunzu
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                    02 months ago

                    And I am clarifying to you that Israel doesn’t recognize any such laws so they don’t get any benefit of them.

                    It is an illegal colonization program conducted at a gun point with forced removals and genocide.

                    So we are all clear here.