• JayTreeman
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      205 months ago

      How is a state that’s largely funded by another state not a proxy for the bigger state? It’s not a Israel Iran proxy war. It’s a us Iran proxy war

      • @disguy_ovahea
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        5 months ago

        Iran has been supplying the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas with munitions, intel, and training to support attacks on Israel.

          • @kbotc
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            45 months ago

            … Israel will sink our ships if they find them inconvenient.

            • @Cocodapuf
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              85 months ago

              Perhaps, but they’d do it with missiles that we designed and gave them. – this is the problem.

            • @njm1314
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              15 months ago

              They absolutely will. On the other hand the Houthis attacked a Russian ship the other day so same I guess.

          • @disguy_ovahea
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            Israel is a sovereign nation. According to international law, they are held responsible for their actions. The same law does not apply to independent rebel groups, putting the responsibility on Iran.

            • @IndustryStandard
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              105 months ago

              If Israel can declare itself a sovereign nation on another peoples land there is no reason rebel groups cannot call themselves legitimate rulers. Anyone can call themselves anything.

              • @disguy_ovahea
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                There are criteria. It’s not simply self declared.

                International law defines sovereign states as having a permanent population, defined territory, a government not under another, and the capacity to interact with other states.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_state

                  • @disguy_ovahea
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                    05 months ago

                    The Houthis are a Zaydi Shiite movement that has been fighting Yemen’s Sunni-majority government since 2004. They reside in Yemen, so they have no land, and they are governed by Yemen. Therefore they are a faction, not a nation.

                • sunzu
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                  5 months ago

                  Cute of you to site international law in favour of country that shits on international law after it got its UN approval.

                  Gtfo

                  • @disguy_ovahea
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                    You’re heavily projecting. I’m not defending Israel, nor do I support what they’ve done to Palestinians. I’m sharing cited factual information about the legal difference between a group, nation, and country. My opinion didn’t even enter the conversation until you incorrectly assumed what it was.

    • @RizzRustbolt
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      Technically, Hezbollah is a proxy for Israel.

      • @disguy_ovahea
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        35 months ago

        How so? My understanding is that Hezbollah is supported by Iran, Syria, North Korea, Russia, and Lebanon.

        • @RizzRustbolt
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          Most of their money and support is coming through Lebanon. And the Moussad is injecting massive ammounts of graft into the Lebanese government in order to destabilize it.

          • sunzu
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            15 months ago

            Yeah Russia does this trick. Ukraine is still funding the war against itself but traitors are able to operate within the state.

            This shit is cancer