edit: also if this is legit I am disappointed they didn’t long-tease the reveal in movies or post credit scenes. this seems very un-marvel, maybe out of desperation. they straight up blew what could have been the biggest and most shocking reveal in history.
Tony made Ultron as the ultimate defense around the world. I could see the idea going a slightly different way and that Tony being a little more ambitious/evil, next thing you know he’s Doom.
I get that I’m in the minority, but I think this is going to not be related to Iron Man at all.
Rdj has range. And Doom wears a mask. I think he decided he was too old to keep playing Tony and wanted to retire the character on a high note, but the movies are fun to make and make him a mint, so when they offered a recast he went for it. But I don’t think he’d want to screw with the completed story for Tony Stark’s character.
I think RDJ is just going to play Doom, and he’ll do a good enough job that no one is going to confuse the characters. Based on his acting choices, that’s my guess.
That just sounds super confusing. I know Marvel has done that with some smaller characters, but Tony Stark is the closest thing the MCU has/had to a main character. If it’s not an alternate Ironman it’ll just confuse audiences.
I don’t think it’d be confusing if they either never show his face, or only show his face as heavily disfigured.
I did worry about his voice though, as RDJ has a pretty distinct accent and way of speaking, but then I reasoned that he’s a good enough actor to put on an accent, and that Latveria, being a fictional country, could justify a strange accent and mask his speech, no pun intended.
Yeah. To add to this: my husband was just reflecting on how dismayed Iron Man fans were when he was cast as Tony Stark in 2007. The consensus on forums like this was that he was a skinny, nebbish weirdo with a nasally voice who was probably too unreliable due to addiction issues to appear consistently in a franchise. And yet here we are.
People forget this: he’s an actual actor! He’s not just that one voice and face!
I think he’s genuinely done and satisfied with Tony Stark as a character, but he had a lot of fun being in Marvel movies, so he’s starting over. Yes: he was the main character. And I think he’d like to go on being a main character, but wants a new experience and the opportunity to play the ultimate villain. And when he gets in character, I don’t think anyone is going to be confused.
EDIT: confession time - I squirm uncomfortably in the latest movies whenever Peter makes a stupid and completely preventable mistake, and the writers make him do it over and over again, like a narrative crutch to advance the plot, to the point that I find it irritating, because Peter seems to be learning nothing along the way.
The Tobey Maguire ones did it best, I feel, kept a balance between honest mistakes of inexperience and us feeling sympathy for him.
Have you read the comics? If not - Peter Parker is constantly traumatized by shit going horribly wrong or failing to account for something frequently. I’d say it’s a running gag but Stan Lee wanted a super hero people could connect with at a human level.
I did not have “RDJ comes back to the MCU as a non-Stark character” on my bingo card
watch it be a multiverse version of Tony Stark.
edit: also if this is legit I am disappointed they didn’t long-tease the reveal in movies or post credit scenes. this seems very un-marvel, maybe out of desperation. they straight up blew what could have been the biggest and most shocking reveal in history.
edit 2: also, how long until “I am Dr Doom!”
Tony made Ultron as the ultimate defense around the world. I could see the idea going a slightly different way and that Tony being a little more ambitious/evil, next thing you know he’s Doom.
I get that I’m in the minority, but I think this is going to not be related to Iron Man at all.
Rdj has range. And Doom wears a mask. I think he decided he was too old to keep playing Tony and wanted to retire the character on a high note, but the movies are fun to make and make him a mint, so when they offered a recast he went for it. But I don’t think he’d want to screw with the completed story for Tony Stark’s character.
I think RDJ is just going to play Doom, and he’ll do a good enough job that no one is going to confuse the characters. Based on his acting choices, that’s my guess.
That just sounds super confusing. I know Marvel has done that with some smaller characters, but Tony Stark is the closest thing the MCU has/had to a main character. If it’s not an alternate Ironman it’ll just confuse audiences.
I don’t think it’d be confusing if they either never show his face, or only show his face as heavily disfigured.
I did worry about his voice though, as RDJ has a pretty distinct accent and way of speaking, but then I reasoned that he’s a good enough actor to put on an accent, and that Latveria, being a fictional country, could justify a strange accent and mask his speech, no pun intended.
Yeah. To add to this: my husband was just reflecting on how dismayed Iron Man fans were when he was cast as Tony Stark in 2007. The consensus on forums like this was that he was a skinny, nebbish weirdo with a nasally voice who was probably too unreliable due to addiction issues to appear consistently in a franchise. And yet here we are.
People forget this: he’s an actual actor! He’s not just that one voice and face!
I think he’s genuinely done and satisfied with Tony Stark as a character, but he had a lot of fun being in Marvel movies, so he’s starting over. Yes: he was the main character. And I think he’d like to go on being a main character, but wants a new experience and the opportunity to play the ultimate villain. And when he gets in character, I don’t think anyone is going to be confused.
It will almost certainly be a multi verse Tony Stark gone evil.
And I’ll bet anything it’s Spider-Man that unmasks him and discovers it, leading to a whole mental breakdown by Peter.
Hasn’t Peter had enough breakdowns yet?
No😠
With great power, comes great meltdowns.
Yeah, make the little cockfart suffer, I say!
EDIT: confession time - I squirm uncomfortably in the latest movies whenever Peter makes a stupid and completely preventable mistake, and the writers make him do it over and over again, like a narrative crutch to advance the plot, to the point that I find it irritating, because Peter seems to be learning nothing along the way.
The Tobey Maguire ones did it best, I feel, kept a balance between honest mistakes of inexperience and us feeling sympathy for him.
Have you read the comics? If not - Peter Parker is constantly traumatized by shit going horribly wrong or failing to account for something frequently. I’d say it’s a running gag but Stan Lee wanted a super hero people could connect with at a human level.
Or a Doombot with Stark’s face to fuck with the Avengers.