• @Dasus
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    163 months ago

    I’m not gonna argue that, but until they get to power and actually do something about the Schengen area, I can continue to enjoy free borders.

    • @ichbinjasokreativ
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      53 months ago

      They don’t typically mind (western) europeans traversing the continent anyway, but I’d expect a lot more hurdles for anyone else trying to get in

      • @Dasus
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        -13 months ago

        What are you on about?

        Schengen area doesn’t work like the “random checks” at TSA.

        There are no border-checks within the Schengen area. Free movement.

        https://www.worldtrips.com/resources/schengen-area/visa-requirements

        A Schengen visa, also known as a Europe visa, allows eligible individuals to travel freely within the 26 participating Schengen Area countries. This means Europe travelers will not be subject to border checks at internal Schengen borders.

        Border checks remain in place for travelers crossing external borders, however. These are the borders between Schengen and non-Schengen states.

          • @Dasus
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            The borders are still open inside the area.

            When you come from outside the area to inside the area, then there’s border control, but again, the deciding factor is from a non-Schengen country to a Schengen country. (You just need a Schengen visa.)

            I didn’t claim we had open borders with the entire world. When crossing the Schengen area border, you will be subjected to a border-check despite your looks.

            • @[email protected]
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              I know how Schengen works. I live next door to a Schengen country. What you are talking about isn’t actually relevant, as it’s people outside the Schengen area that are the main cause of concern with immigration such as Islamic countries. It’s different in the UK but we are not and were never part of Schengen anyway. I don’t think anyone cares about French people moving to Italy or whatever. Read the fucking room.

              You also don’t have to be in the Schengen area to be in the EU, or an EU member to be in Schengen. So it’s even more irrelevant as a country can just leave Schengen.

              • @Dasus
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                -23 months ago

                It’s different in the UK but we are not and were never part of Schengen anyway. I don’t think anyone cares about French people moving to Italy or whatever. Read the fucking room.

                So your consideration of Europe is basically French+Italy<UK, and that’s it for Europe? No, you don’t need to be in the EU to be in Schengen, but how is that relevant? I haven’t even mentioned the EU? I said “Europe” and then specified the Schengen area, which covers most of Europe, but also includes Norway, which isn’t an EU country?

                My point is that there’s no subjective evaluation of who has a Schengen visa and who doesn’t. They straight up said western Europeans get treated differently to others, implying white privilege, but it isn’t a subjective evaluation of who is checked at the border and who isn’t, and even if it was a subjective evaluation, it’d be kinda hard seeing the diversity within the Schengen area.

                “Read the fucking room”

                Read the fucking thing you’re replying to. Who talked about the EU?

                • @[email protected]
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                  I mentioned France and Italy because those are exmaples of european countries in the schengen aggreement.

                  I say it’s different in the UK because there is much more negativity and rascism over immigration from certain parts of europe such as poland into england. In the rest of europe I don’t think anyone actually cares about other europeans entering their country. If that was an actual concern they wouldn’t have joined schengen in the first place. it’s more about arabs. To an extent it’s actually understandable as arabs are a completeley different culture, religion, and government system to how most european countries are. In some islamic countries women have less rights than in europe. It’s also the case that governement and religion are much more closeley related; some are even still monarchies.

                  • @Dasus
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                    -33 months ago

                    I don’t think anyone cares about French people moving to Italy or whatever. Read the fucking room.

                    Ah, “examples of Schengen countries”.

                    Once again, Schengen doesn’t work like the “random” check at TSA, so I don’t see why you keep implying that people’s attitudes have something to do with this?

                    Weird how you completely omit mentioning the EU, though. Isn’t it? Almost as if you were ashamed because you thought I had been talking about it, when I really weren’t, isn’t it?