When you come from outside the area to inside the area, then there’s border control, but again, the deciding factor is from a non-Schengen country to a Schengen country. (You just need a Schengen visa.)
I didn’t claim we had open borders with the entire world. When crossing the Schengen area border, you will be subjected to a border-check despite your looks.
I know how Schengen works. I live next door to a Schengen country. What you are talking about isn’t actually relevant, as it’s people outside the Schengen area that are the main cause of concern with immigration such as Islamic countries. It’s different in the UK but we are not and were never part of Schengen anyway. I don’t think anyone cares about French people moving to Italy or whatever. Read the fucking room.
You also don’t have to be in the Schengen area to be in the EU, or an EU member to be in Schengen. So it’s even more irrelevant as a country can just leave Schengen.
It’s different in the UK but we are not and were never part of Schengen anyway. I don’t think anyone cares about French people moving to Italy or whatever. Read the fucking room.
So your consideration of Europe is basically French+Italy<UK, and that’s it for Europe? No, you don’t need to be in the EU to be in Schengen, but how is that relevant? I haven’t even mentioned the EU? I said “Europe” and then specified the Schengen area, which covers most of Europe, but also includes Norway, which isn’t an EU country?
My point is that there’s no subjective evaluation of who has a Schengen visa and who doesn’t. They straight up said western Europeans get treated differently to others, implying white privilege, but it isn’t a subjective evaluation of who is checked at the border and who isn’t, and even if it was a subjective evaluation, it’d be kinda hard seeing the diversity within the Schengen area.
“Read the fucking room”
Read the fucking thing you’re replying to. Who talked about the EU?
I mentioned France and Italy because those are exmaples of european countries in the schengen aggreement.
I say it’s different in the UK because there is much more negativity and rascism over immigration from certain parts of europe such as poland into england. In the rest of europe I don’t think anyone actually cares about other europeans entering their country. If that was an actual concern they wouldn’t have joined schengen in the first place. it’s more about arabs. To an extent it’s actually understandable as arabs are a completeley different culture, religion, and government system to how most european countries are. In some islamic countries women have less rights than in europe. It’s also the case that governement and religion are much more closeley related; some are even still monarchies.
I don’t think anyone cares about French people moving to Italy or whatever. Read the fucking room.
Ah, “examples of Schengen countries”.
Once again, Schengen doesn’t work like the “random” check at TSA, so I don’t see why you keep implying that people’s attitudes have something to do with this?
Weird how you completely omit mentioning the EU, though. Isn’t it? Almost as if you were ashamed because you thought I had been talking about it, when I really weren’t, isn’t it?
I mean with like 2 exceptions you are talking about the EU, since almost all Schengen countries are EU members, and even those that aren’t are still bound to the EU by things like trade aggreements or the EEC.
You still have to go through regular checks when coming from a non-schengen country, and that’s the kind of immigrants the right hate the most. Do you not get it?
So your mistakes in thinking I was talking about the EU is okay because Schengen is “close enough”?
from a non-schengen country, and that’s the kind of immigrants the right hate the most. Do you not get it?
Yeah. INSIDE the area there’s free movement. Once you’ve entered a Schengen country (with either residency or a Schengen visa), you’re free to travel within the Schengen area.
The borders are still open inside the area.
When you come from outside the area to inside the area, then there’s border control, but again, the deciding factor is from a non-Schengen country to a Schengen country. (You just need a Schengen visa.)
I didn’t claim we had open borders with the entire world. When crossing the Schengen area border, you will be subjected to a border-check despite your looks.
I know how Schengen works. I live next door to a Schengen country. What you are talking about isn’t actually relevant, as it’s people outside the Schengen area that are the main cause of concern with immigration such as Islamic countries. It’s different in the UK but we are not and were never part of Schengen anyway. I don’t think anyone cares about French people moving to Italy or whatever. Read the fucking room.
You also don’t have to be in the Schengen area to be in the EU, or an EU member to be in Schengen. So it’s even more irrelevant as a country can just leave Schengen.
So your consideration of Europe is basically French+Italy<UK, and that’s it for Europe? No, you don’t need to be in the EU to be in Schengen, but how is that relevant? I haven’t even mentioned the EU? I said “Europe” and then specified the Schengen area, which covers most of Europe, but also includes Norway, which isn’t an EU country?
My point is that there’s no subjective evaluation of who has a Schengen visa and who doesn’t. They straight up said western Europeans get treated differently to others, implying white privilege, but it isn’t a subjective evaluation of who is checked at the border and who isn’t, and even if it was a subjective evaluation, it’d be kinda hard seeing the diversity within the Schengen area.
“Read the fucking room”
Read the fucking thing you’re replying to. Who talked about the EU?
I mentioned France and Italy because those are exmaples of european countries in the schengen aggreement.
I say it’s different in the UK because there is much more negativity and rascism over immigration from certain parts of europe such as poland into england. In the rest of europe I don’t think anyone actually cares about other europeans entering their country. If that was an actual concern they wouldn’t have joined schengen in the first place. it’s more about arabs. To an extent it’s actually understandable as arabs are a completeley different culture, religion, and government system to how most european countries are. In some islamic countries women have less rights than in europe. It’s also the case that governement and religion are much more closeley related; some are even still monarchies.
Ah, “examples of Schengen countries”.
Once again, Schengen doesn’t work like the “random” check at TSA, so I don’t see why you keep implying that people’s attitudes have something to do with this?
Weird how you completely omit mentioning the EU, though. Isn’t it? Almost as if you were ashamed because you thought I had been talking about it, when I really weren’t, isn’t it?
I mean with like 2 exceptions you are talking about the EU, since almost all Schengen countries are EU members, and even those that aren’t are still bound to the EU by things like trade aggreements or the EEC.
You still have to go through regular checks when coming from a non-schengen country, and that’s the kind of immigrants the right hate the most. Do you not get it?
So your mistakes in thinking I was talking about the EU is okay because Schengen is “close enough”?
Yeah. INSIDE the area there’s free movement. Once you’ve entered a Schengen country (with either residency or a Schengen visa), you’re free to travel within the Schengen area.
Do you not get it?
That’s not what the guy was talking about. You keep talking about something that’s irrelevant.
“The guy”? My dude, you’re in a thread that I started, so I beg to differ.