It’s different in the UK but we are not and were never part of Schengen anyway. I don’t think anyone cares about French people moving to Italy or whatever. Read the fucking room.
So your consideration of Europe is basically French+Italy<UK, and that’s it for Europe? No, you don’t need to be in the EU to be in Schengen, but how is that relevant? I haven’t even mentioned the EU? I said “Europe” and then specified the Schengen area, which covers most of Europe, but also includes Norway, which isn’t an EU country?
My point is that there’s no subjective evaluation of who has a Schengen visa and who doesn’t. They straight up said western Europeans get treated differently to others, implying white privilege, but it isn’t a subjective evaluation of who is checked at the border and who isn’t, and even if it was a subjective evaluation, it’d be kinda hard seeing the diversity within the Schengen area.
“Read the fucking room”
Read the fucking thing you’re replying to. Who talked about the EU?
I mentioned France and Italy because those are exmaples of european countries in the schengen aggreement.
I say it’s different in the UK because there is much more negativity and rascism over immigration from certain parts of europe such as poland into england. In the rest of europe I don’t think anyone actually cares about other europeans entering their country. If that was an actual concern they wouldn’t have joined schengen in the first place. it’s more about arabs. To an extent it’s actually understandable as arabs are a completeley different culture, religion, and government system to how most european countries are. In some islamic countries women have less rights than in europe. It’s also the case that governement and religion are much more closeley related; some are even still monarchies.
I don’t think anyone cares about French people moving to Italy or whatever. Read the fucking room.
Ah, “examples of Schengen countries”.
Once again, Schengen doesn’t work like the “random” check at TSA, so I don’t see why you keep implying that people’s attitudes have something to do with this?
Weird how you completely omit mentioning the EU, though. Isn’t it? Almost as if you were ashamed because you thought I had been talking about it, when I really weren’t, isn’t it?
I mean with like 2 exceptions you are talking about the EU, since almost all Schengen countries are EU members, and even those that aren’t are still bound to the EU by things like trade aggreements or the EEC.
You still have to go through regular checks when coming from a non-schengen country, and that’s the kind of immigrants the right hate the most. Do you not get it?
So your mistakes in thinking I was talking about the EU is okay because Schengen is “close enough”?
from a non-schengen country, and that’s the kind of immigrants the right hate the most. Do you not get it?
Yeah. INSIDE the area there’s free movement. Once you’ve entered a Schengen country (with either residency or a Schengen visa), you’re free to travel within the Schengen area.
Who’s replying to me talking about open borders in Europe (or more precisely, the Schengen area.) If you’ve got yourself a Schengen visa, then you’ll be treated just the same as residents, being subjected to a border check on borders which cross non-Schengen to Schengen.
I think there’s s rather clear implication that these checks happen or not, based on how Western European you look to the border control. I’m saying it’s not how those borders work.
I’m saying it doesn’t work like this, which is what I think is what he was implying.
So your consideration of Europe is basically French+Italy<UK, and that’s it for Europe? No, you don’t need to be in the EU to be in Schengen, but how is that relevant? I haven’t even mentioned the EU? I said “Europe” and then specified the Schengen area, which covers most of Europe, but also includes Norway, which isn’t an EU country?
My point is that there’s no subjective evaluation of who has a Schengen visa and who doesn’t. They straight up said western Europeans get treated differently to others, implying white privilege, but it isn’t a subjective evaluation of who is checked at the border and who isn’t, and even if it was a subjective evaluation, it’d be kinda hard seeing the diversity within the Schengen area.
“Read the fucking room”
Read the fucking thing you’re replying to. Who talked about the EU?
I mentioned France and Italy because those are exmaples of european countries in the schengen aggreement.
I say it’s different in the UK because there is much more negativity and rascism over immigration from certain parts of europe such as poland into england. In the rest of europe I don’t think anyone actually cares about other europeans entering their country. If that was an actual concern they wouldn’t have joined schengen in the first place. it’s more about arabs. To an extent it’s actually understandable as arabs are a completeley different culture, religion, and government system to how most european countries are. In some islamic countries women have less rights than in europe. It’s also the case that governement and religion are much more closeley related; some are even still monarchies.
Ah, “examples of Schengen countries”.
Once again, Schengen doesn’t work like the “random” check at TSA, so I don’t see why you keep implying that people’s attitudes have something to do with this?
Weird how you completely omit mentioning the EU, though. Isn’t it? Almost as if you were ashamed because you thought I had been talking about it, when I really weren’t, isn’t it?
I mean with like 2 exceptions you are talking about the EU, since almost all Schengen countries are EU members, and even those that aren’t are still bound to the EU by things like trade aggreements or the EEC.
You still have to go through regular checks when coming from a non-schengen country, and that’s the kind of immigrants the right hate the most. Do you not get it?
So your mistakes in thinking I was talking about the EU is okay because Schengen is “close enough”?
Yeah. INSIDE the area there’s free movement. Once you’ve entered a Schengen country (with either residency or a Schengen visa), you’re free to travel within the Schengen area.
Do you not get it?
That’s not what the guy was talking about. You keep talking about something that’s irrelevant.
“The guy”? My dude, you’re in a thread that I started, so I beg to differ.
This guy: https://lemmy.world/comment/11731391
Who’s replying to me talking about open borders in Europe (or more precisely, the Schengen area.) If you’ve got yourself a Schengen visa, then you’ll be treated just the same as residents, being subjected to a border check on borders which cross non-Schengen to Schengen.
I think there’s s rather clear implication that these checks happen or not, based on how Western European you look to the border control. I’m saying it’s not how those borders work.
I’m saying it doesn’t work like this, which is what I think is what he was implying.