• @TrickDacy
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    71 month ago

    Can you be an incel if you have children…?

    • @[email protected]
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      151 month ago

      I know the term is involuntary celibate, but the “movement” has kinda moved onto any men who believe that a woman is obligated to fuck them. That crowd has picked up on a heavy pro-natal message, and Vance’s disparaging comments about women who don’t have kids plays well there. He might have had sex, but he’s trying to offer those losers a world where they’re on top of the power structure.

      • @TrickDacy
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        21 month ago

        He has things in common with incels, but that doesn’t make him one.

        • @primrosepathspeedrun
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          philosophically he really really is, in the same way andrew tate (except for thinking he’s hot, which incels don’t do) is.

          • @TrickDacy
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            -11 month ago

            It would be so easy to compare him to incels without saying he is one.

            • @primrosepathspeedrun
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              21 month ago

              he’s an incel who got laid. philosophically, psychologically, socially, he still is. he just got his dick wet a few times. as much as they whine about it;the difference isn’t big enough to waste valuable bandwidth defining.

              • @TrickDacy
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                There is a big difference in a virgin and someone who fathered children.

                And no I’m not defending him. He’s a total piece of shit. Just not involuntarily celibate even if he shares some views with those who are.

                I mean just as one example of how they’re different: level of sexual frustration.

                • @primrosepathspeedrun
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                  31 month ago

                  just because he’s fucked, doesn’t mean he’s gotten any better. doesn’t mean he doesn’t hate women any less. probably resents having to fuck one for his public image.

                  • @TrickDacy
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                    11 month ago

                    And I never implied any of that. Just that it’s silly to call someone a thing with a literal meaning as though words don’t matter. And yes he’s not any better off, just different.

    • @warbond
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      131 month ago

      Incel isn’t on your tax returns, Incel comes from the heart

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      He’ll always be an incel in spirit

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        I think it’s more than simply being involuntarily celibate. It’s a whole thought process and belief system that places blame outside of yourself which creates a great animosity towards others.

        I wouldn’t call myself an incel, but I sure wouldn’t be passing up sex if I were able to have it. I just don’t blame or hate women for my problems. It’s entirely my fault that I suck lol

    • @Rakonat
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      21 month ago

      Can we prove it’s his kids and not some cuck affair? Or so i heard.

    • @dvoraqs
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      11 month ago

      Does celebate mean virgin? I thought it just meant not having sex.

      • @TrickDacy
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        11 month ago

        You’re right, but the vast majority of incels are both.