Question I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on possibly making votes public. This has been discussed in a lot of other issues, but here's a dedicated one for discussion. Positives Could help figh...
Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.
What a horrible fucking idea. You are want this place to be an even bigger echo chamber than it already is? Yes, let’s allow the majority of one opinion brigade people’s histories to further ostracized them!
This is why they need to make this change, right now theres a false sense of privacy. If I really wanted to see your votes right now, all I need to do is to set up my own instance.
That’s not necessarily a false sense of privacy if it works. There’s an inconvenient barrier to searching vote history and if you do it in the current system you’d be recognized as petty at least. Easing access is not going to make Lemmy better.
I checked and didn’t see them there, but maybe I was looking in the wrong place. Not saying they don’t exist there. Fwiw, I wouldn’t be replying with what I did if people had said something like that instead. I just find it laughable that people suggest setting up a whole instance as if that’s a simple thing. Checking from an mbin instance is a much better argument.
No, I just don’t see how setting up an entire instance being a good argument. As others have suggested you can check it from mbin right now. I couldn’t find it though. If that’s the case then my opinion changes.
The protocol fundamentally exposes them. Absent protocol changes, if someone hasn’t already, sooner or later they’ll just make a website to look them up.
It’s pretty simple for me. Privacy is a good thing, lack of privacy is a bad thing. Think of the children arguments, which your line of thinking is akin to, is not justification to remove anonymous interactions.
What a horrible fucking idea. You are want this place to be an even bigger echo chamber than it already is? Yes, let’s allow the majority of one opinion brigade people’s histories to further ostracized them!
Admins, for smart people, can be fucking idiots.
This is why they need to make this change, right now theres a false sense of privacy. If I really wanted to see your votes right now, all I need to do is to set up my own instance.
That’s not necessarily a false sense of privacy if it works. There’s an inconvenient barrier to searching vote history and if you do it in the current system you’d be recognized as petty at least. Easing access is not going to make Lemmy better.
I’ve learned today kbin and mbin exposes it to users too
“All you’d need to do is set up an instance” is waaaayyyyyy more work than “all you need to do is click their profile”
You don’t need a whole instance, you just need a user on another service that have votes public, like Mbin.
I checked and didn’t see them there, but maybe I was looking in the wrong place. Not saying they don’t exist there. Fwiw, I wouldn’t be replying with what I did if people had said something like that instead. I just find it laughable that people suggest setting up a whole instance as if that’s a simple thing. Checking from an mbin instance is a much better argument.
I think you may need to be logged in or something, not sure.
Could be.
Edit: Even after logging in I see the same view.
Is this meant to be reassuring? Because it really isn’t at all, and it just seems like you’re being dismissive to downplay the issue.
No, I just don’t see how setting up an entire instance being a good argument. As others have suggested you can check it from mbin right now. I couldn’t find it though. If that’s the case then my opinion changes.
So because it’s hard for you to access but easier for others, it’s not a problem? One user could just publicize the info on a more accessible website.
I don’t view it as a problem in the same way I don’t view messages not being end to end encrypted as a problem. I assume admins can see everything.
The protocol fundamentally exposes them. Absent protocol changes, if someone hasn’t already, sooner or later they’ll just make a website to look them up.
There are many things that don’t happen because nobody does them. Or should we start walking around in a bullet proof vest in case we’re shot?
We’re asking for votes to be private. I think your example is ridiculous.
Votes already are public to all server admins (I can see exactly what you voted for in communities my instance knows about).
Do you have a better idea to make it easier to flag bots and government propaganda?
It’s pretty simple for me. Privacy is a good thing, lack of privacy is a bad thing. Think of the children arguments, which your line of thinking is akin to, is not justification to remove anonymous interactions.
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