• @JohnBrownII
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    4621 days ago

    The 13th Amendment did not abolish slavery. It made it a punishment for a crime

    • Blackout
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      1921 days ago

      Slavery is still the best way to make money if you own slaves. Elon Musk knows this.

    • atocci
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      1821 days ago

      Sounds like Jonathan still has a chance to redeem himself then

      • Atelopus-zeteki
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        1721 days ago

        I mean, Big J IS a tortoise. I’m pretty sure he’s been working on social justice, but you know, it’s going kinda slowly.

        • @ivanafterall
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          621 days ago

          Of course he only cares about soshell issues. Typical self-serving reptile politician.

      • @ivanafterall
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        221 days ago

        Why do you assume Jonathan isn’t the reason the 13th amendment doesn’t abolish slavery?

    • @[email protected]
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      621 days ago

      No, it abolished slavery with an exception carved out for punishment for crime.

      The difference is important. Saying it was “made a punishment” suggests that before the amendment that option didn’t exist. It did. The 13th amendment just clarified that that use was allowed to continue.

      But, it’s also worth noting that in the late 1700s and early 1800s imprisonment was uncommon, and a lot of crimes just carried the death penalty. In England, pickpocketing more than the modern equivalent of about $40 could result in a death penalty. Same with cutting down trees, or stealing from a rabbit warren. For less serious crimes there were the stocks, whipping, and fines. England had an option that wasn’t available to the US: transportation. Australia was originally a penal colony, and the people sent there were forced to labour until their sentences were up.

      Prisons (along with their work programs) were seen as a new, progressive idea that could potentially reform a prisoner, rather than just killing / punishing them.