• @CitizenKong
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    3 months ago

    The problem is that the origin is “hamburger beef steak” which is the beef patty that came from Germany. This was combined with a sandwich to create a “hamburger sandwich”. Over time, the sandwich part was dropped and now here we are.

    • @I_Has_A_Hat
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      63 months ago

      It wasn’t even really a patty as we know it in burgers, it was more like a slice of breakfast sausage.

      • @JusticeForPorygon
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        63 months ago

        I’d argue if you put breakfast sausage on a bun it adequately fits the definition of a burger.

        • @[email protected]
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          23 months ago

          I wouldn’t call a slice of sausage a patty, so I disagree

          I cannot tell you why, though, and I make my own sausages and burgers by hand so like, I should know why?

        • @I_Has_A_Hat
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          23 months ago

          I guess that’s true. It’s more the distinction of the paddy being formed by hand or being sliced out of a big roll of sausage.

            • @JusticeForPorygon
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              13 months ago

              There’s pork burgers, sausage is just ground meat (generally pork) that’s been seasoned and sometimes encased/preserved.

          • @JusticeForPorygon
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            13 months ago

            You happened to ask this while I was in a smaller class at my college so I was able to start a “civil discussion” over whether a Sausage McMuffin was a burger.

          • @JusticeForPorygon
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            03 months ago

            I mean if you wanna get technical a burger is just ground meat between two halves of a bun. Therefore one could argue a McMuffin is also a burger

            • @[email protected]
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              3 months ago

              Nope.

              A burger is ground beef patties between two halves of a bun. Any other meat is a sandwich. The reason is that “burger” is short for “hamburger,” which is the term we use for ground beef, so by definition, a burger is beef.

              Veggie burgers are in a weird place, because they should be sandwiches, but since they’re intended to be a drop-in veggie substitute, we call them burgers. But they’re always prefixed with a qualifier, like “veggie burger” or “bean burger.”

              • @JusticeForPorygon
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                3 months ago

                Wikipedia- Hamburger

                A hamburger, or simply a burger, is a dish consisting of fillings—usually a patty of ground meat, typically beef—placed inside a sliced bun or bread roll.

                Note that “typically” and “always” are of different meanings. I’ve made sliders with ground pork before, what is a slider if not a small burger?

                A burger is a sandwich with a patty made of ground meat. That meat can be beef, pork, turkey, hell, even chicken if that’s your sort of thing. And, like you said, veggies.

                • @[email protected]
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                  23 months ago

                  It’s really pretty uncommon to call a chicken sandwich or a sausage breakfast sandwich a “burger.” The term comes from the meat inside of it, hamburger, so generally speaking, other fillings will be called a “sandwich” instead of a “burger.” I guess you could call those things burgers, but it would be weird.

                  And no, a “slider” isn’t a “small burger” (it can be), it’s a sandwich. A burger is also just a sandwich, so calling a specific sandwich a “burger” vs a “slider” means two different things, a “burger” is larger and generally has ground beef (but occasionally veggies or similar), and a “slider” is a small, usually round sandwich.

      • @CitizenKong
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        13 months ago

        No, the “hamburger steak”, mentioned in the Oxford dictionary in 1802, was roasted and salted minced beef meat. So pretty close to the present day patty actually.