• @puppy
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    202 days ago

    Mozilla and Safari.

    • @ProtecyaTec
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      592 days ago

      Ah Safari, the IE8.5 of modern browsers…

      • Xylight
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        318 hours ago

        As a web dev, screw safari. Apple just randomly decides to not follow web standards some time so I spend tons of time debugging random safari issues that I CANT EVEN TEST MYSELF because I don’t pay for apple products

      • @TrickDacy
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        262 days ago

        The “best” argument I’ve heard recently for that heap of shit? The extensions have the best UI integration! Lol

        People do so much bending over backwards to excuse every shitty thing apple does.

        • @thehatfox
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          182 days ago

          Safari is more energy efficient on macOS compared to other browsers.

          But like it or not the (artificial) hold Safari has over the iOS/iPadOS ecosystem is the only thing stopping a complete Google hegemony over the web browser market.

          Mozilla is circling the drain and the few nascent new browser projects are years away from technical maturity and may never establish any meaningful market share anyway.

          • @TrickDacy
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            61 day ago

            Lol so I should appreciate that apple is preventing browser choice because they chose not to use chromium for the only option they provide?

            Fuck Apple. This situation is on them. Preventing other browsers should have triggered governments to rip them apart for monopolistic practices. I cannot say “fuck apple” enough.

            Mozilla is not “circling the drain”. Firefox is great, haters can hate all they want.

          • @[email protected]
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            31 day ago

            Yep definitely. I can open 100+ safari tabs but my shitty old laptop will crash if I have 20 on chrome or firefox or brave

            • @TrickDacy
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              -41 day ago

              Having more than 20 tabs open is a bad idea. And yeah it’s going to be a faster browser when you deeply tied it into the OS you also built. Doesn’t make it better in the least.

    • @grue
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      422 days ago

      No, not Safari. While it’s technically true that Safari’s WebKit engine isn’t based on Chromium’s Blink engine, that’s only because the genetic relationship goes in the other direction: Blink was initially forked from WebKit (which was itself forked from KHTML, by the way).

      Point is, Mozilla’s Gecko is the only major browser engine that’s fully unrelated to Blink.

      • @Lumisal
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        21 day ago

        What about the Ladybird project?