Migrants who arrived since 2015 say they feel unwelcome in Germany, where the far-right Alternative for Germany is gaining support.

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    212 months ago

    at [the] expense of domestic population

    Gee. That’s just wrong. The benefit of even just the refugees is far greater than the cost. E.g. the German hospital system pretty much wouldn’t work anymore without thousands of migrant doctors, many of which Syrians.

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        regime […] slave labour

        I know you’re edgelording but would you mind reverting back to appropriate terms here? You’re speaking about Germany, not about Uyghur labor in China.

        This is not a flex you think it is, just an indication of poor leadership

        Not meant as a flex at all: Just a part of reality where migrants contribute a lot to German society, while a lot of Germans are put off by people simply speaking a different language or having the wrong skin color, and/or being riled up by racism in media and politics.

        While sure immigration is over all good for GDP, it supresses wages of the indigenous slave labour. So for a wage slave thus is inherently a hit to their wallets.

        For funsies, consider that Germany didn’t even have a federal minimum wage until 2009 and how that impacted wages, like in real terms. Also consider, that migration does come with an overall expanding economy (i.e. you need more goods, you need new services, etc.) which can easily mean better (economic/social) outcomes for all.

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          [Addendum:] The quality of leadership is an entirely different topic. But fwiw, the only way to keep capitalism going is an expanding society but women don’t seem to want to have more kids lately. Of course, it would behoove us to question capitalism and the expensive, often societally detrimental systems built since WWII. We won’t get to working on those questions though, if our attentions continue to be focused on racist bullshit.

          Right-wing parties not only don’t question capitalism, they also do have own improbable “solutions” to the question of growing the population: Essentially outlawing abortions, forcing LGBTQ people into cishet conformity, and weakening women’s rights (which likely encompasses gradually making rape less illegal).

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              72 months ago

              I guess I should have clarified that I was asking you to tone down the language as a mod, too. Further questions in private.

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        62 months ago

        Because trade is a thing and protecting the weakest also protects the slightly better of. That is to say, if migrant workers can not be exploited neither can German workers.

        And yes that includes helping workers in other countries.